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Need a new universal remote, what to buy?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by xmguy, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. DallasFlier

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    Interesting thought - and one I'll likely ponder further, as I think I'm going to add a H25 to the HR24 in my media center. I really like the idea of integrating both into a single activity - you know, 3 tuners, watch live with pause/replay, program both HR24's in the house (from the H25) but will have to see if I can do all that in a single activity without dropping into device mode.
     
  2. xmguy

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    I ended up buying the Harmony 700 AND the Xsight 18 both. I plan to test them both out. See what works better. Then return the one that I don't want. The Harmony One was just WAY to expensive.
     
  3. mdavej

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    Good plan. One word of advice on the 700: you get way more functionality if you don't use myharmony.com and use the standalone software or members.harmonyremote.com instead. Myharmony does give you a couple more devices, but no sequences, backlight adjustment, no more than 5 activities, no additional commands can be added to your activities, and repeats and delays cannot be adjusted.

    Please post back with your comparison.
     
  4. xmguy

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    I got the Xsight 18 in today. Got to say. I've fallen in love. LOL! It can control SO much of my remote based devices. Using the (now not slow) web site was a breeze. I really like it. Sadly my older RF Extender will not work. It's not strong enough. I have to get within a few inches of the extender for it to work. Not sure the the one made for the Xsight will be any better. But even though the Harmony 700 is still on it's way my mind is fairly made up. I love the DirecTV RF control. That is the best feature.
     
  5. mdavej

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    Glad to hear it. FWIW, I got at least 40' range from my Xsight RF extender. I never tried farther than that. But they're hard to find these days. I searched recently and saw a few available from Dell and ebay. I've also seen reports that Next Generation bases work with Xsight, but I've not tried that myself.
     
  6. xmguy

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    I don't know if those next gen ones would work since the Xsight uses a proprietary rechargeable battery.
     
  7. mdavej

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    I'm just talking about using the base. It's been reported HERE that the RF transmitter built into the Xsight will work directly with a 433MHz Next Gen base without using the battery.
     
  8. xmguy

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    Ahh! I was able to get the AR Extender for about $60. Less than some were selling for.
     
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  10. Skarzon

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    Other than range and the ability to transmit through walls, what are the benefits of using RF?
     
  11. mdavej

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    No aiming required and no problems with IR noise from certain TVs.

    I only use RF because my DVR is in a different room than my TV. When they are in the same room and line of sight, I use IR.

    The problem is DirecTV only works in IR or RF mode, not both at the same time. So if you need RF in one room, you're forced to use RF in all rooms, because IR no longer works.
     
  12. Skarzon

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    Makes sense, thanks for the clarification! Was just wondering if I was missing some cool features...
     
  13. reber1b

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    Having had several remotes already, you probably know what you most often use them for. I recently purchased a Harmony 650, and though I recognize its attraction to some users, it does not suit my purposes at all. The 650 is built on the principal that every user is usually going to want to to do the things that the Harmony is good at -- what Logitech calls "Activities. I see very little value in them since I have nine devices(the 650 is limited to five), and prefer to turn them on and off, and set them at my whim, and I very rarely use the same combination of devices with any repetition. On the other hand, I love macros, but find that the 650 is very limited in its ability to perform them. One other feature of the 650, that is considered by most users to be attractive, is the use of a screen to select devices and activities. I, on the other hand, prefer buttons because I don't have to put my reading glasses on to read them in a darkened room, and after a few weeks of use, I know where they are by feel.

    As I said previously, I'm not knocking the Harmony 650, I'm just saying it is not the remote that meets my criteria.
     
  14. mdavej

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    ^^^ the OP ended up with the Xsight and is happy with its RF, 18 device capacity and no macro limits.

    Harmony is fine for basic needs and dirt simple to program. But you hit a wall pretty quickly when you start pushing the envelope, like wanting it to do more than one thing when you press a button. As you said, harmony macro capability is very limited, and its state tracking fails when other remotes are involved.

    My parents love the harmony I got them because it works fine in their situation, and I can program it for them in just a few minutes from hundreds of miles away. What I don't like is that harmony used to have very capable remotes, but all the new models have been crippled in major ways. Instead of making a few small improvements which would have made them unbeatable, they started purging major features. So I won't patronize them unless they start putting back all the advanced features they took out. A lot of people still love harmony in spite of this, but I think it's mainly because they don't know what they're missing. Any universal remote that can't do a simple macro shouldn't have the right to call itself a universal remote.
     
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  16. xmguy

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    Yeah. The learning memory is massive too. I was able to learn an entire second (descrete) DirecTV remote. The website said I'd barely used 1 or 2 % of the total memory. The last remote I had would've filled up by then. Also because I wanted to use the Xsight to control 2 directv receivers with 1 remote. I wanted to use IR on one and RF on the other. For some reason even though I had set both receivers up for IR and RF respectively. The remote wanted to control BOTH units in RF. The only way was to set the receivers in IR and set the second receiver to a second code within directv ui to support a second code. Programmed the second remote as same. Then manually learned all the needed commands from the second receiver remote to the Xsight. When linked online left info blank. Didn't want the remote even thinking it was directv or it would mess up and not work again. I had to stop using RF on my first receiver however because I have a Hava ( slingbox) type device set to control the first receiver on IR. So RF would not work for it. However I've bought the RF extender that will work same and solve all the issues. Macros as well. Overall I think it's a real good remote. For $60 it's a steal!

    To add. I also love how without the need of JP1 or learning. The website knew commands for like my Vizio TV that even my remote would not control. Like my Vizio remote has a general HDMI button to cycle between the 3 inputs of HDMI but the UEI website had a unique code to set to HDMI 1 directly without needing to go though the 3 HDMI inputs.
     

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