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Need help utilizing dual tuners in DirecTV R15 receiver

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by aburdick1, Apr 8, 2006.

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  1. Earl Bonovich

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    Have you tried stacking the signal, and then just 1 tuner input on the R15 (with the destacking turned on)

    At least at that point we will know the stacker is doing it's job.
     
  2. aburdick1

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    I'll give that a shot, and let you know what happens...

    Andy
     
  3. cabanaboy1977

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    Aburdick1, you might want to try two different ports off the multi switch into the stacker. You could be getting a bad singal off one of two leads that your using now. Or one of the two cables that your using between the mulitswitch might be bad.
     
  4. aburdick1

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    OK, I reconnected the stacker, disconnected the splitter, turned the R15's "stacked LNBs" option on, and reset the receiver. At cabanaboy1977's suggestion, I did use two different "out"s from the multiswitch than before to go into the stacker.

    I can get *most* of my channels, the most notable exception being ESPN (yikes!).

    The signal strength of the odd transponders is the same as before -- high 80s to low 90s -- and the even transponders are in the 40s.

    Any other thoughts?
     
  5. walters

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    Possibly the cable run itself is attenuating the high (stacked) frequencies. Try putting the R15 right near the multiswitch with a very short RG6 (use the existing cable to get a channel 3 or 4 signal to your TV).

    If this is it, then it could be the cable itself or something along the way (maybe a coupler or splitter in the attic or somewhere you can't see it).
     
  6. aburdick1

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    walters -- Interesting suggestion. I had new cable put in when I installed DirecTV, so I know it isn't split; it's a home run from the multi-switch to the room with the R15. In any case, that's a good idea; I hadn't considered that the cable could be bad...
     
  7. cabanaboy1977

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    Are you still using the same cables to connect the mulit-switch to the stacker? I know you tried the different outputs from the mulitswich like I suggested (so the multi-switch is good) but did you try two different cables (between the mulit-switch and the stacker)? If you don't have another two cables just switch the leads cable leads on the stacker, basically i'm think maybe one of those two cables is bad.
     
  8. walters

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    If you ran cable when you installed DirecTV, why can't you run a second line now? A much better solution, really.
     
  9. aburdick1

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    cabanaboy1977 -- they're brand new Acoustic Research cables that I bought yesterday at Best Buy, so I doubt they're bad; regardless, I'll try switching them around, and see if that makes a difference.

    walters -- of course running a second line would be a better solution! However, it cost me several hundred dollars to run the first set of lines, and to do so, walls had to have holes drilled in them, cable had to be run under the carpet, etc. I don't want to go through the time / expense / hassle, just to have a second line in my bedroom; that's why I decided to see if I could do it cheaper myself...
     
  10. cabanaboy1977

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    You probably right, I just don't want to see you banging your head on the wall just to find out it was something so small.
     
  11. jcmo34

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    This may be completely stupid, but is there someplace in your house you can easily get the necessary 2 cable runs? If so, you could connect the r15 there, then connect the r15 output to the the coax that is run to your bedroom . Use an RF repeater or something like that so that your remote control will work in your bedroom. I am sharing my HDVR2 that way with 2 rooms and it works pretty well... that way you don't have to run the extra cable to your bedroom but can get the dual tuner functionality you need.
     
  12. aburdick1

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    OK, I've tried a few more configurations, with no improvement:

    - At cabanaboy1977's suggestion, I switched some of the Acoustic Research RG6 cables between the multi-switch and the stacker

    - At walter's suggestion, I moved the R15 closer to the multiswitch and the stacker. Specifically, I connected a cable directly from the stacker out into the R15 Satellite 1 in, and then connected the cable going to the bedroom to the R15's "Out to TV".

    - I also considered the possibility that the problem is with the cables I'm using in the room itself to go from the wall outlet to the R15; they're Monster Cable M500V RF cables. I replaced one with some other coax cable I had lying around.

    Nada. No appreciable changes in signal strength, no ability to get ESPN (which, after some research, is on transponder 10, one of the transponders for which I get a 0 on the signal strength screen).

    At this point, I am:

    (a) Cursing my lack of foresight when I had the cable run a couple of years ago
    (b) Out of ideas.

    Does anyone else have any suggestions? Is the Monster Cable I'm using to go from the wall outlet to the R15 not good enough? Is the stacker bad? Anything? Anyone?

    Thanks to everyone for their continued assistance...

    Andy
     
  13. aburdick1

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    jcmo34 -- Unfortunately, the only other room with 2 cables running into it is my den, and I'm already using both for my DirecTV/TiVo receiver. I'm in a masonry mult-unit building, so it's not easy to run new lines. Otherwise, that would have been a good idea; that way, I wouldn't have to listen to the R15's hard drive hum while I'm trying to go to sleep!

    Andy
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    Yank the Multiswitch.

    Feed the stacker with direct feeds from the dish.
     
  15. aburdick1

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    Earl -- I'm pretty sure I tried that configuration yesterday, but I've tried so many things, it's hard to keep it all straight. I'll try again, and report back...
     
  16. aburdick1

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    Well, it's as I remembered: the signal strength is better. Now, most of the even transponders are in the 60s, rather than the 40s. Still registering a 0 on transponders 4, 10, 12, 14, 16 and 20, though. Still no ESPN. And now, I'm having problems getting all my channels on my other receivers, since we've bypassed the multi-switch.

    I've got to run, I'm going to help friends hook up their home theater system tonight (child's play, compared to this!); I'll check in later, and see what you recommend next...

    Andy
     
  17. Earl Bonovich

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    I am at a loss... I don't know what to try next.

    I would contact the vendor of stacker and see what they say.
     
  18. aburdick1

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    Good idea -- I'll e-mail them first thing in the morning.

    Thanks again!

    Andy
     
  19. Bobman

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    How about "Call a professional ?" I am all for doing things myself but if I was wasting as much time as you have been, I would make a phone call and let this be someone elses problem.
     
  20. jcmo34

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    aburdick1,
    You could just put the receiver next to your multiswitch, since you'd need 2 short runs from the switch to the receiver and then just connect your bedroom coax to the receicver....
     
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