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Needless $5 local charge?

Discussion in 'DISH™ OTA Support and Discussion Forum' started by tulsarick, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. samsmith

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    Even if you dont subscribe for locals from dish you can still see the channels in the epg but no epg data, usually Digital Off-Air channels are shown in Yellow colour in the EPG.
     
  2. b177b80

    b177b80 Cool Member

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    And just because you have an OTA does not garauntee that your signal for that station will come in as good as some other stations. Took me forever to find my abc without losing my nbc or another station
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    That's what I said.

    The only way to record from OTA would be to set manual timers... and you'd have to use some other source of data (TV Guide magazine or online web sites) to find out what was on.
     
  4. jzinckgra

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    What do you mean about setting manual timers for OTA? All of my local OTA channels show up in the channel guide just like the Dish channels. I think they are a different color, but that's it. I've always got the same program info via the OTA channels as the sat channels.
     
  5. 47HO

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    He means you would have to set timers manually for OTA if you did not have the EPG info.
     
  6. fryguy503

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    Just a note* after 2/1 if locals are available in your area you will get them and there is no way to opt-out anymore and you will have to pay the $5 charge. If you currently do not have locals I suggest not contacting dish for anything, once it adds them we cannot remove them as it will keep auto-adding them.
     
  7. SayWhat?

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

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    ^^^^ Based on what?
     
  8. bnborg

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    Are you saying that you DO NOT SUBSCRIBE to your locals from Dish, and still get them in the EPG?

    If that is true, then it is news here. If not, it is the same as others here have been saying. :confused:
     
  9. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    OTA channels are in the EPG regardless of whether you subscribe to locals or not. But if you don't subscribe to locals, then instead of EPG data you get "Digital channel" or "no information".
     
  10. bnborg

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    Right.

    So, having them listed in the EPG is useless, as far as being able to create timers. You still have to do it manually.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    True... but I just didn't want there to be confusion when someone comes and posts that they see their OTA channels in the EPG but do not subscribe to locals.
     
  12. SayWhat?

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    Not necessarily. They don't show up in mine at all, not even in "All Channels". I don't even see that entire channel range.

    But that could be because they're on a different Satellite and I don't have the LNB for it.
     
  13. JWKessler

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    Just to clarify something here, if Dish does not offer locals for your area, you will not be able to get the guide data. From this discussion I had assumed I could opt to pay the locals charge just to get the guide data. That was an incorrect assumption.

    The brand X service does provide the guide data, even when they don't provide the locals. That is one annoying minus for Dish.
     
  14. Terry K

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    THIS would keep me from signing up for DISH. I have no desire to put any money in the pockets of my lackluster local stations, so I opt out of locals. I won't pay for what I can get for free.
     
  15. harsh

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    No provider (outside of C-band that doesn't offer locals) currently allows you to "opt out" of LIL where available. Locals are now included in all packages but DBS providers will give you a small discount if they're not available.
     
  16. Dave

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    Actually you can opt out of locals from Dish. I had the locals from my area markets. But after watching them for 3 months in HD and deciding that my OTA was a lot clearer and brighter, I had Dish turn them off. I had no problems turning them off and saved the $ 5 monthly fee from Dish. So in my case I did turn off the locals and saved money. Dish can not force you to take something that you do not want. This would open them up to inspections and observations from the FCC. This they do not want. If they, Dish would try to make you pay for something you niether want or need, just file a complaint with the FCC in Washington and let them know what is going on. But this will not be necessary as Dish will just shut off your locals for you. You may need to pay a $ 5 downgrade fee to do this.
     
  17. harsh

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    This wasn't how it was explained. Good to hear that this option is available.
    This is completely outside of the purvey of the FCC. Perhaps the FTC, but not the FCC.

    On the other side of the DBS fence, several have expressed dismay that they couldn't opt out. This may have been related to DNS as opposed to LIL though.
     
  18. Michael P

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    I don't think the FCC cares (as long as the "locals" E* sells you are the DMA you are actually in). As far as "opting out" of locals, try opting out of locals with a cable system!
     

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