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Netflix vs. DirecTV Cinema

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Filibogado, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. hdtvfan0001

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    That's Pandora's box to an entirely new debate that I'll avoid...since its been debated by many before...but I have not drank the 1080p "significant" superiority koolaid yet, based on extensive hours of personal observations.
    Yup on all counts. The newest HD projectors create stunning imagery, and 1/2 or less the price of comparable projectors just 3 years ago. You can get a very impressive setup of projector and screen under $10K now, which is well below the $22K it took just 2-3 years back....and the technology keeps getting better as well each year.

    Once you've seen a quality 1080 projector image on a 116" (or larger) quality screen, its virtually impossible to go back to a measly 55" HDTV, I don't care how good it is.

    Mrs HDTVfan refuses to watch any movie of any kind anymore without seeing it on the projector in the Home Theater we built a few years back (my Avatar). No problem with the Wife Acceptance Factor (WAF) here. :D

    Like I said earlier...both Netflix and CinemaNow stuff is might fine there too.
     
  2. sigma1914

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    BDP-93...It's only pre release right now, but if you email them at BDP-93@oppodigital.com they might have some left. Remember, they're pre release, so some kinks are being worked out. It's $499.99 and you receive a complete refund if unhappy at any time up to 30 (or 90?) days after public release. More info here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1291855
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

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    Yeah - that unit's gonna be another winner for Oppo.

    Now if they could only bring down the price a bit more to be competitive... :D
     
  4. sigma1914

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    Agreed about both. The price tag made me hesitant, but I needed a dual HDMI output unit since my AVR doesn't pass 3D.These units were my choices:

    Panny #1 DMP-BDT300 - $400
    Panny #2 DMP-BDT350 - $430 - adds DLNA feature
    Sammy BD-C7900 - $399

    I also needed DLNA that streamed mkv, so that rules out the Panny #1. So, $100 got me a better upscaling chip and excellent customer service. $500 for a BR is crazy, but it has it's perks.
     
  5. sdirv

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    Sure it is........when was the last time you looked, what equipment were you using, and what was your internet connection speed??? All THAT makes a very BIG difference.......

    Trying to compare my D* HD to a Netflix stream through my Wii and D* wins every time.

    Comparing D*'s HD feed to a Netflix HD stream through my PS3 over my 20mbps internet connection and it's a toss up.....I've seen SD programming from Netflix through my PS3 to my 65" Mitsi that I had to go back several times to check if it was SD or HD....it was THAT good. The programming from Netflix that's NOT 1080P is all upconverted to 1080P by the PS3 for a VERY good result.
     
  6. hdtvfan0001

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    I think the real point of all this is just what you somewhat illustrated - it depends.

    One of the reasons streaming gets mixed reviews is simply the mix of equipment out there to support it, and the diversity of bandwidth available to support it. The average consumer today may or may not have enough Internet bandwidth to get a quality stream in many cases, whereas other users have no issue at all.
     
  7. sdirv

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    Huh???? Care to explain?????

    Netflix has been streaming 1080P content in DD5.1 with the PS3 since mid-October.
     
  8. sigma1914

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    I know movies on Netflix are marked HD, but which ones are 1080p?
     
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    Which is exactly right.

    Reminds me of my mother in law telling me about how bad her D* HD sucks, so I go down to her place and check. She's got a DVR (not HD at all) in her mobile home hooked to a single LNB dish on a portable mount out front and connected to an ancient 25" tube TV with a composite cable.....but the guy from the indie installer told her it was high definition.

    So we see folks drop in here with "reviews" on the product (N*) who may or may not have the equipment needed, the bandwidth needed, etc. and those "reviews" steer others in their decisions.

    Every time I see a comment about how N* "can't do this of that"....I'll be asking for clarification. How long ago was it that the person actually had/saw N*, what equipment was used, how fast the internet connection was....

    And when we talk about "equipment needed to support it", the best device on the market currently for streaming N* is the PS3. Mine's been in the "rack" for years (literally), it's one of the older 80gb models. There's other good equipment out there I'm sure, but I don't have experience with them so can't comment...I'll leave that to others.

    I'm a little bit of a N* fanboy I guess (as I am with D* too), but when I post/reply about N* I talk about equipment and bandwidth requirements. Those "requirements" are nothing considered to be exotic.
     
  10. sdirv

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    Although N* does label which programs are in DD5.1, they don't list resolution.....only that programming is in HD.

    I would suppose that's done since labeling programs as 1080P and then not having them "show up" that way for people without the required equipment or bandwidth would only make people "upset" (??)

    I don't see D* listing resolution in their guide either (they do list 1080P programming for some demand stuff), it's just shown as HD no matter what the resolution is.

    D*'s able to do it on PPV programming since they control the equipment you use, you configure your system to indicate capabilities (and the system actually checks) and then you're not actually streaming at all. But rather downloading programming to a hard drive to watch later (even though "later" may be in 4 minutes).
     
  11. sigma1914

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    Thanks. If you know any off hand, please share. (Like you, I love Netflix.)
     
  12. hdtvfan0001

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    Ironically, I'm anything but a NetFlix fan, yet I respect the fact that they offer a service many enjoy. I've used them as well, but not likely as much as many others here, yet enough to see what they offer in terms of selection and quality. No problems viewing here.
     
  13. Bob Coxner

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    It's not many data points, but...

    I have a 720p Sony 34" CRT. I recorded an HD movie from D*. I then streamed the same movie from Netflix via Roku and 10mbps internet. I then compared single frames from each version, using frames that had very small details in the background, such as the hands on a clock. I was surprised to see that the Netflix version actually had a sharper image and I could see minor details that were blurry on the D* version.

    As always, YMMV.
     
  14. Rich

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    Speaking of Pandora, boy was I wrong about Pandora Radio. That's a great application and it seems to come with every streaming device. I just brushed it off as "more crap that I'll never use", but I use it everyday.

    Rich
     
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    Bit of a steep price, but then every OPPO I've bought (and quickly returned) has had a hefty price tag on it. I'll wait on that one. Thanx for the info.

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    So far, the only HD content that NetFlix streams is 720p and all my upscaling BD players turn that into a great 1080/60p picture.

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    Didn't know that. Huh. Wonder why they don't just stream it to all devices?

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    I've always said in many posts that I thought NetFlix 720p was better than D*'s 720p. Hard to get folks to agree, but I see it. And I'm not imagining it.

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    Just called NetFlix and the CSR told me that they do, indeed, stream in 1080p on PS3 and they're waiting for the manufacturers of streaming devices to catch up to Sony. Sorry, I was wrong again.

    I asked about the "HD" and she said that all the BluRay content was in 1080p and 5.1 on PS3s, altho she didn't sound positive, but that makes sense. She also told me that after the New Year hits, the HD content will be vastly increased. She said that they are working as quickly as they can to stay ahead of the pack.

    Rich
     
  20. tonyd79

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    You are imagining it. The bandwidth is not there. Or your upscaler is making it look good to you. Raw delivery is not near the directv quality at this point.
     

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