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New coax cabling for Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by jgkurz, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. jgkurz

    jgkurz New Member

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    I am trying to think through what RG6 coax cabling I will need for a new Directv Genie install. I prefer to run my own cabling to the receivers and dish. Here's my confusion. I have seen HR44 and HR34 diagrams with one SAT-In and two SAT-In connections.

    This thread seems to indicate I need 4x coax to the dish and one coax to each receiver if I use SWM.

    Just to confirm:

    1) How many RG6 coax cables will be needed for each Genie and mini-Genie?

    2) How many RG6 coax cables do I need to run to the dish?


    Thank you!
     
  2. longrider

    longrider Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Assuming you are running just a Genie and Genie clients you will only need one RG6 from the dish to a central point, and one RG6 from each TV location to the central point. However the SWM LNB is limited to 8 tuners so expansion would be limited to three more tuners. If this is new construction or if you are doing a lot of work such as wall fishing I would run 2 to each TV location and 5 or 6 to the dish location for future proofing.
     
  3. jgkurz

    jgkurz New Member

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    Thank you for the response!

    I don't see ever needing to go past 6 tuners so SWM should work. All would be Genie type.

    What would I need for a Genie type dish if I don't care about future proofing? 4x coax?
     
  4. longrider

    longrider Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    There is nothing special about the dish for a Genie. Genie does require SWM so if you know 6 tuners are all you will ever need 1 coax is plenty as you would run the SWM LNB. The 4 coax comes into play when you need more than 8 tuners which requires a SWM16 switch which requires the 4 coax from the dish
     
  5. Bill Broderick

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    Make sure that you don't confuse the terms "receiver" and "tuner" with one another. A receiver is a set top box. Each receiver can have multiple tuners (the number of programs that can be viewed or recorded at at time is how many tuners a receiver has).

    A Genie is 1 receiver, but it has 5 tuners in it (which is why it can record up to 5 programs at a time). If DirecTV ever permits multiple Genies on an account, you would not be able to add a second Genie with a SWM dish.

    To allow for more than 8 tuners in the house, you should run 4 coax lines from the dish location to the switch location. If you are positive that you will never want more than 8 tuners, then you will only need 1 coax from the dish location.
     
  6. jgkurz

    jgkurz New Member

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    Thank you everyone. This is just what I needed.
     
  7. dishinitout

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    Always run 5-6 lines from dish to distro panel on new construction this allows 4 sat lines if needed down the road ( even though your current setup only needs 1) plus options for OTA, satellite radio, cell booster etc or replacements if something happens to a line down the road ( this recently saved one of my customers hundreds of dollars by thinking ahead with 1 spare line) if you know for sure you will absolutely never need more than 8 runners or if not new construction and running that many lines will be difficult I'd still run 2 lines for spare plus this still give option of a swm16 at the dish if you ever go over 8 tunners. Never run just 1 line unless its easy to rerun.
     
  8. Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    ^ What he said! :)

    One other factor is not only your use, but the use of the people who will own the house beyond you.

    One other approach is to use a conduit large enough to hold 5 or 6 coax even though you only put one in now--with a pull line in there so you can add more later as needed.

    Peace,
    Tom
     

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