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new directv branded sat meter?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by double, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. TigersFanJJ

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    That's what they say and it is true to a point. I haven't seen any meter that gives a true 100% on the meter=100% on the receiver for any satellite that you may be trying to lock on to (including the 101). However, peaking the 99 and 103 with the accutrac III gave me mid-90s to 100% on the receiver for 1000+ installs. So it is hard to sell me on the notion that it won't get the job done correctly.
     
  2. Mertzen

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    +1 Never mess with the recommended tilt settings. Never had issues.
     
  3. double

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    thanks guys, since i really dont need one right now i am going to wait just to see if something does come to fruition. but i am going to buy one of the SWM install meters. i use SWM-8 on every job period and would like to have that when needed. i havent really had any problems other than a power supply or 2 going bad.
     
  4. Mertzen

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    Dang, you're in special projects or something ?
     
  5. double

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    we do high end A/V and integration work. we supply swm 8 for every projecteven if we only have 4 dvr's or less, i have found the swm8 to be super reliable, great for all sorts of distances of wiring, etc. my sat guy brings the dish and resceivers, everything else is ready and waiting for him. most of the time i will hook up boxes while he puts up dish.
     
  6. Simmerman

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    Tigers FanJJ

    I dont think the Accutrac III is a bad meter but here in AZ when mine heated up it would not work so I always had to worry about keeping it out of the sun until I needed it. It doesnt read the SWM signal as far as I know and you have to use a KaKu lnb to peak and dither then swap out for a SWM LNB which we are not allowed to do.

    I use a Birdog since I get a couple of International installs a month and like to use the 95sat since we have to do 2 dish installs here in our part of the state.
     
  7. harsh

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    If the SIM01 is for testing cable drops, why does it have a male connector on it? Is this so there aren't any threads to damage?
     
  8. west99999

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    There is indeed a new meter being manufactured by DTV it is called the AIM in the pre-stages. It will alow the SWiM be installed and peaked without running power and will peak the 99 and 103. There is even specualation that it might even do WB without the APA and channel master. :lol:
     
  9. TigersFanJJ

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    I didn't install many SWM dishes before I got out of the business, maybe 30 or so, but I never had a problem using the accutrac III with those. Basically, I installed the dish, splitter, and power inserter. Once the dish was powered, I connected the accutrac to one of the outputs on the splitter (non-powered output) and would get a signal for the 101 only. I found (here in mobile/pensacola area) that I could spin the dish all the way around and would only get a signal when it hit the 101. I'd dither, lock it down, and it would be peaked when I went inside to connect the receivers.

    We get some pretty nasty heat and humidity here and I never had a problem with the accutrac III overheating. The only problem I ever had with mine was the batteries went bad. Wasn't too much of a problem as it uses rechargeable AA batteries that are easy to change out. It's been a long time since I had a birdog, but I think it is a major problem when the battery goes bad in that meter (meter has to be opened up and takes a special battery, IIRC).
     
  10. Bill C

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    You are correct about the new meter it's name is the Super Buddy 29
    you can read about it at the following website.

    www.appliedin.com
    click on sat meters, click on meters, click on Super Buddy 29
     
  11. joe diamond

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    It looks great!

    So?......Should the surcharge per installation be $10.00 and recapture its' cost over the next eighty installations? How about $20.00 and do forty more installations before it starts making money?

    Boy am I glad the HSPs are providing them to their employees.

    Joe
     
  12. satjoe

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    The Accutrac 3 reads SWM automatically, no need to do any set up. It works great!
     
  13. woodybeetle

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    Thats strange, I have been using my 9520 to view 99 and 103 for about a year now. Remember, the more you pay for the tool, the more it will do for you.
     
  14. double

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    heck yeah, thanks for the confirmation. i will definately be waiting, why not? i am wondering if the super buddy 29 is the same AIM product that west9999 referred to.
     
  15. Simmerman

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    What is a 9520?

    Sat joe, Does your accutrac get an actual reading on the 101 and 119? Just curious, as I stopped using mine once I started dithering with the SWM LNB, Do you connect it to a SWM splitter to get the readings or do you peak with a KaKu LNB?

    Our Service techs just got those super buddys. Not sure which model but they were very expensive, very cool looking and not being used by the techs because no one has trained them on their use.
     
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  17. woodybeetle

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    Yeah, thanks for reminding me how old I am. About 3 years ago the 9520 was the meter to have, then the super buddy came out and Applied decided to obsolete the 9520. I have both, the super B has its ups and downs as well as the 9520. If you are only doing residential installs, go with the 700$ super buddy. If you are doing commercial or MDU, I recommend finding a 9520 and a super buddy. It has come in handy when you have hundreds or receivers hooked to one dish, and joe customer has a problem that cant be fixed with "just peak the dish or swap the lnb" Remember, its your knowledge in the field that makes your tools work for you, not the other way around.
     
  18. satjoe

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    Accutrac 3 needs power from the inserter so a splitter will need to be used. It also will get readings from the 101,110,119,99,103 .All this hub bub about true or actual level means nothing. As with any meter a 89 does not mean you get an 89 on the receiver, but if a scale goes to 50 and you get a 49 then you will have obtained a 99% on the receiver. There is also no need to swap out the LNB unless your trying to peak without power inserter. The biggest plus is it is a very cheap price for a meter.
     
  19. Simmerman

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    I think I will take the free Birdog over the Accutrac III. I have had two Birdogs and the firest one still works with the original battery ( I have to dither very quickly!). The AIII just doesnt seem to have the same quality in my experience. To each his own.

    The 99,103, and 110 dont really factor in for me when peaking dishes my point is you are NOT getting a real reading on the 99 and the 103, just an approximation so I just go off the 101 and 119. Thanks or the info though on using the AIII for peaking a SWM. I still keep it around as a spare.
     
  20. satjoe

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    Make sure you upgrade your software on your bird dog. Direct TV will be moving to a SWM 3 LNB. The 110 and 119 are not going to be used in a lot of areas. In my market they shut down using the 110 and 119 over a year ago. They will be moving programming from the 95 to 119 for international channels. A one Dish Solution
     

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