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New Harmony 880 Remotes — $124.99

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Mikentosh, Jun 16, 2007.

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  1. Jeremy W

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    It's definitely configurable. I haven't touched the web interface in a very long time, so I couldn't say exactly where it is, but somewhere in the activity configuration you setup the power states for the various devices. The remote will keep track and make sure everything is the way it's supposed to be. If you choose Watch DVD while the TV is on, it will just switch the inputs and turn on the DVD player, but if it the TV is off, it will also turn on the TV.
     
  2. bigsurfing

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    The 880 is a great remote. I picked mine up over xmas when Dell had it for like $120 shipped.

    It's pretty easy to setup and get going for basic feature stuff, however, if you have a lot of devices and specific features you use - it takes a little tweaking.

    Does it eliminate the need for all your remotes? yes and no. I still grab the tivo remote when watching my tivo for instance. Why? I know where all the buttons are, even though i have them mapped on the 880.

    the only "con" on this remote is the lag. it's not as responsive as the rest of my remotes and tends to buffer up commands. For example, hold the volume up button for a few seconds - you don't get a instant response like you would off your normal remote (either directv's or the oem tv's) and when you take your finger off the button, it'll still bump up a few more volume bars.

    All said however... it's a great device and the programming of it couldn't be simpler. As close to point and click setup as you'll get.

    My dad has the Harmony 550 (for those of you who want to save a few bucks) - it functions I'd say just as well as the 880 for 95% of what you'll do. The only main difference is it doesn't have a color LCD, but blue lit LED.


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  3. JFHughes08088

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    I've been thinking about going the 890 route ( I have an 880 now) but when I learned that the emitters have to be connected to each piece of AV gear to be controlled, I balked. Sounds like a lot of little tails hanging off gear in an already wire intensive location.

    Instead, I use these. http://www.smarthome.com/8210.html

    Put the receiver on top of the TV and point the 880 at it. It receives the IR command, converts it to RF and sends the signal to another device in the AV closet. That device convers the RF back to IR and sends the command. No extra wires - works great.
     
  4. Jeremy W

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    This can be fixed too. There is a delay setting for each device in the web interface, and for some reason Logitech sets it really high by default. I don't remember how to get there to change it, but when I lowered the delay for my devices, the remote became just as responsive as the remotes that they came with.
     
  5. L2BENGTREK

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    Keep talkin' Jeremy! You have an answer for everybody's gripes so far! Mine should be gettin' delivered tomorrow or Thursday.
     
  6. cygnusloop

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    Exactly correct.
    There is inter-key delay, the time the Harmony delays between sending key strokes, and inter-device delay, the time that the Harmony delays between sending commands to your different devices (when you press an activity, for example).

    IIRC, both were set to 300 milliseconds from the factory. This is very long, it seems to me.

    I set both to zero, and as Jeremy said, the response then becomes like any other remote.
     
  7. DCSholtis

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    True plus I couldnt get the damn thing to program those buttons...:lol: So I have them set up in the activity window. Probably easier than using the buttons anyway. Now to get it set up for my HDMI Switcher, if possible.
     
  8. romwarrior88

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    Man, I have an MX-800 and an MX-500 and even so, this thread is really tempting me to try the 880. I like the activity based programming and the help button really sounds nice for my wife since neither my TV nor my receiver have discrete power. :(
     
  9. DCSholtis

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    This is the one I have. Its an xBox model but its still great whether you have an xBox or as in my case....you don't. I has the help button as well as the colored buttons.
     
  10. cygnusloop

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    The help button is one of the keys to the high WAF in my house. She almost gets excited when something doesn't come on, or switch to the right input (usually due to bad remote pointing). She is a master of the help button, and is very proud of herself when she accomplishes a "geeky" A/V task.
     
  11. Jeremy W

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    The 880 isn't the Xbox model.
     
  12. DCSholtis

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    Im aware of that.
     
  13. shendley

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    I just did the "test drive" for the 880 and it was amazingly easy to find all my components and set up activities. But I was disappointed that it didn't let you do anything more sophisticated than that. For instance, I assume it's possible to go into each device and assign specific commands to specific keys, right? And (I know this must be a dumb question, but I haven't seen it addressed) is it possible after selecting an activity (say, "watch tv") to then select a specific device to control (say, the tv). For instance, when I listen to an xm radio station, I like to have the tv power up at first so I can see my way to the specific channel I want. But then I like to turn the tv off without turning off my HR 20 (I see no reason to burn all that electricity powering a plasma tv when all I'm really doing is listening to music). Is this sort of jumping back and forth between controlling specific devices easily done?
     
  14. Jeremy W

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    Yep.
    Yes, there is a Devices key on the remote. When you press it, you will be given a list of your devices and you can pick the one you want to control. The only thing is, if you manually (as in, not through an Activity) change the power state of a device, the remote won't know about it. What you'd really want to do is create another Activity entitled Listen to XM, where the TV is off but the HR20 and audio receiver stay on.
     
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    I finally took the jump and got a Harmony 890. But I can't find how to set the "inter-device delay" setting. Right now the skip to end/beg/tick keys simply won't work and I suspect it's a function of the inter device delay setting. Can anyone guide me to where I can change it?
     
  16. cygnusloop

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    OK, a quirk of the HR20, not the Harmony.
    For all the functions that require holding the button down for 3 seconds on the D* remotes (stupid, stupid, stupid...):

    With the Harmony, hold the button down while counting slowly to three, and then tap the button again. It takes a few tries to get the hang of it, but once you do, it works every time.

    I don't think the inter-device delay will have any effect on this.

    [I say this is a quirk of the HR20 because the other devices I have that use the same (stupid) hold down a button functions, work fine on the Harmony.]
     
  17. shendley

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    Thanks! I had no idea that you could do something like this with this feature to make it work properly. And you say it helps with the skip to features using the DTV remote as well? I tried it on the DTV remote as well but, curiously, the skip to functions were working perfectly (go figure!) on that remote so I couldn't really test it.
     
  18. cygnusloop

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    I don't think it would help with the RC series (D*) remotes.

    On the Harmony, it works with the skip to tick, etc..., as well as the slow-mo (stupid) and the press and hold for the info button.

    It, at least, works as reliably as it does with the RC series remotes.
     
  19. PatentBoy

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    The HR20 has a RAW mode where the remote can learn the IR. So, for example, the remote can learn a press-and-hold play command for the AppleTV to turn the unit off.

    With the HR20, I wonder if it can learn the double-tap press as you described above so you could program the remote and assign a button for the jump-to-the-next-mark or jump-to-beginning/end functions.

    Have you tired this?

    It would make things a lot easier if the remote can be programmed like this...
     
  20. cygnusloop

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    I hear what you are saying, but I don't think so. I did try to program a press and hold through raw mode, and it *kinda* worked, it just wasn't very reliable. Plus, I am quickly running out of convenient buttons on the remote. :)

    I don't understand *why* the HR20 has this peculiar behavior, I do know it is the only component I have that does exhibit it.

    Re: your AppleTV, I assume the press and hold of the play button for power off is similar to the iPod convention.

    So, with the Harmony, when you press and hold the play button, it doesn't work? If that's so, that's the first I've heard of another component that didn't work right out of the box with the Harmony. Just curious. I wonder if the press and tap method would work for the AppleTV. Hmmmm...
     
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