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New HD channels coming in May/June!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by PaulieORF, Apr 20, 2010.

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  1. Apr 20, 2010 #401 of 3573
    RAD

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    Dish didn't buy Voom, Cablevision owned them until they went bust. Dish did buy the satellite that Voom launched for the service and picked up the 61.5 transponder licenese that Voom had there.
     
  2. Apr 20, 2010 #402 of 3573
    kevinturcotte

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    True lol And how many of their customers, or potential customers would understand that there is a difference between compressed and uncompressed signals?
    Just curious, what WOULD be the bitrate on a raw, uncompressed 1920x1080 signal?
     
  3. Apr 20, 2010 #403 of 3573
    slimoli

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    Both MPEG2 and MPEG4 are compressing algorithms, therefore everything is compressed by definition. What we normally consider "compressed" is actually a re-compressing of the signal that comes in either format by cable and satellite companies. Nobody in the broadcast industry uses uncompressed signal to the end user. You would need a very expensive receiver to process uncompressed HD video signal.

    To give you an idea, 1 hour of MPEG2 1920X1080 video would use about 24 GB of memory. Un uncompressed video with the same resolution would use several times more, something like 300-400GB.
     
  4. Apr 20, 2010 #404 of 3573
    uncrules

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    I've never seen Dish HD but a poster at both this site and the other one who recently switched from Dish to Directv said Directv had the hands down better PQ.
     
  5. Apr 20, 2010 #405 of 3573
    James Long

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    Fully uncompressed? One. Maybe.

    Voom had 39 HD channels as well as a SD and audio channel only lineup ... and only 13 transponders. They were no where near "uncompressed".
     
  6. Apr 20, 2010 #406 of 3573
    Grentz

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    Nothing is truly uncompressed that you will ever see in public mediums.

    Even Bluray/HD-DVD is compressed.
     
  7. Apr 20, 2010 #407 of 3573
    mluntz

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    No Lifetime Movie HD? My wife will be pissed!
     
  8. Apr 20, 2010 #408 of 3573
    MrSmartyA

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    +1

    We need a real news channel (err, 60 minutes style, just 24 hours a day with Amanpour type of news people. Not opinion and ditto-head channels.)
     
  9. Apr 20, 2010 #409 of 3573
    sunfire9us

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    Big damned deal!!! with the exception of WGN hd FINALLY coming all the rest are for the most part the damned premium channels. was nice seeing the other rsn's becoming avail. they still need to get some of their main cable channels avail!! Everything is NOT just on the stupid premium channels lol
     
  10. Apr 20, 2010 #410 of 3573
    sunfire9us

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    That is true. From what I've seen at my aunt and uncles next to what I've read in the past Dishnet always had a soft next to blurry pq compared to DTV. DTV does beat Dishnet on pq.
     
  11. Apr 21, 2010 #411 of 3573
    Avder

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    Swedish deals.

    I wants AMC and BBCA next.
     
  12. Apr 21, 2010 #412 of 3573
    Hoosier205

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    DirecTV PQ is superior to Dish Network PQ. That much is fact and not a matter of opinion. The technical points merely back that up.
     
  13. Apr 21, 2010 #413 of 3573
    camo

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    I just came from Dish and can tell you they add RSN as HD that are part time with 33% coverage at best. I'm very pleased with Direct so far.

    This is great news with the additional HD. I'll have to look into upping my package with the additional premium coverage. Would of liked to seen True TV and MAVTV for men channel added also.
     
  14. Apr 21, 2010 #414 of 3573
    camo

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    I never noticed any difference in PQ. I don't believe it.
     
  15. Apr 21, 2010 #415 of 3573
    jurples

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    well, none of my own personal most wanted channels were among those added (tcm, fox movie channel, ifc, encore westerns). that being said, i'm still pretty excited about the impending arrival of what we are getting (and the prospect of more being on the way). i guess i'm just an easy-to-please kinda guy...
     
  16. Apr 21, 2010 #416 of 3573
    Araxen

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    Same with the # of channels each provider has. Directv was coming up with eye rolling numbers too counting all the ST and PPV channels as a total number of HD channels they offered a year or two ago. I just roll my eye's when either company make their statements as both companies deceivingly twist words in their commercials and press releases.
     
  17. Apr 21, 2010 #417 of 3573
    toofastgtp

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    If i remember how to do this right,
    1920*1080= 2,073,600 / Pixels per frame
    2,073,600 * 24 bits of color per pixel = 49,766,400 /Bits per frame
    49,766,400 /8 bits per byte = 6,220,800 or 6.2 MB/second per frame

    So if 1080p24 = Darn near 150 MB/second

    So a 2hr movie Uncompressed looking at just over a TB of space
     
  18. Apr 21, 2010 #418 of 3573
    oldcrooner

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    IMHO, that channel would be BBC World. However, for some unknown reason, Directv has never carried it despite the fact that it's been available for years via Discovery distribution. The BBC has been ranked as one of the world's best news sources, if not the best, for many decades.
     
  19. Apr 21, 2010 #419 of 3573
    davidjplatt

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    Hate to tell you - 1080i doesn't mean "Integrated Scan" it means 1080 lines INTERLACED - that means it draws 540 lines each scan so it draws 540 lines one cycle and the other 540 lines the next cycle. It draws 1080 lines 30 times a second. 720p draws 720 lines each cycle and draws that 60 times per second. Same for 1080p - drawn 720 lines each cycle.
     
  20. Apr 21, 2010 #420 of 3573
    EaglePC

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    human eye cannot tell a difference 720p , 1080i ,and 1080p
    Bluray no difference either ,just the sound quality is a huge difference.

    thats just me.
     
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