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New HD smaller picture?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by djousma, Oct 16, 2007.

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  1. hasan

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    While I agree with your sentiments (last sentence), I don't agree with your first point. It has been my experience that out in the "general" population there is strong and irrational desire to not see pillar bars, and to not see bars at the top or bottom on DVDs. It's nuts, but it's there. I deal with it every day.

    People who "know" hate stretching ....for the most part. The general public...not so much.
     
  2. Stuart Sweet

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    I actually know people who thought HD was supposed to look stretched. Clearly most restaurant owners think so.
     
  3. MikeR

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    Imagine their pain when they see a windowboxed program!!:lol: :lol:
     
  4. techieguy23

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    Our local NBC does this zooming as well. Except they dont zoom it enough and there are still black bars on the sides of 4:3 programming, except now its all stretched. Ugh, who thinks these things look good?
     
  5. DarkAudit

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    Why would people demand the picture fill their screen when they know going in that the result is going to look horrible (ie: Turner networks)?

    IMO, Futurama and Family Guy look much better on regular Cartoon Network or my local Fox HD channel than they do on Cartoon Network HD.

    If they can't fill the screen and make it look not half-assed, then don't bother.
     
  6. mx6bfast

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    Delray...
    Just for the record, I used the results of this poll, http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=102141
     
  7. gully_foyle

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    This is an HD newbie reaction. They come from having little televisions and having had widescreen DVDs forced on them with letterboxing. They HATED that because they had such tiny TVs to start with and couldn't afford the real estate. So they get their new HDTV and see those &%^%$ damn bars on the sides now! Eventually they clue up (say, after they see REAL HD for a while), but initally they see nothing wrong with stretch. They're used to crappy images.
     
  8. marksman

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    I don't know.. I have a 65" screen, and I will go to great lengths to find the best mix of filling the screen with the least impact on the picture.

    I can't stand having the bars there myself...I find it distracting when watching the program. On a bigger tv it is potentially worse because the bars are massive.
     
  9. islesfan

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    There is one other aspect, and that is screen wear. I have gotten used to stretch-o-vision, not because I think it must be HD but because I spent a lot of money on my HDTV and I want it to last. Having black bars all over the edges will cause uneven wear on my TV. Now, since the HR20 slides the image to the left, even if I stretch the image in my TV, I still have a black bar on the right. I get your point, but just so you know, not everyone who sees stretch-o-vision happily thinks "hey, I've got HD!" Now, if we can just get ESPN and CNN to remove their logos from the bars! All I need is the edge of my screen to have a permanent ESPN or HD burned in!
     
  10. gregjones

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    I have slight burn-in of the pillarboxes on my 48" screen. That being said, I would rather have slight discoloration in the margins than distort the picture. For me, an HDTV is a way to get content. I didn't pay for 48 diagonal inches of screen, I paid to have the ability to see content clearly.

    I will eventually replace my rear-projection Mitsubishi with an LCD. Stretching comes down to the same discussion we have all had about HD. Give us more choices. Stretching content or distorting it at the content provider leaves users with no choices. That is why it is objectively wrong.
     
  11. bgottschalk

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    Amen!

    Please for the love of all that is Holy - why can't they remove the big ugly bright logos that are sure to someday destroy my very expensive TV. At least make them transparent. I don't need a glowing symbol to remind me what channel I am watching. That bugs me way more than stretch-o-vision. I can't even enjoy the show because I'm worrying the stupid logo will still be there on my screen tomorrow.

    And I, for one, don't happily think stretch-o-vision is HD, but I do happily think about how it is not wearing out my TV unevenly. And even though I don't have a tiny TV any more and I realize I am in the minority - but I would still rather have the program use the whole screen.
     
  12. TreyS

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    IMO, the networks should leave 4x3....4x3 and let the weirdos out there stretch it at will. I have no problems looking at my 65" tv with black bars on the sides. The producers/ directors of the show made it that way, why should I distort the image?

    A circle should not look like an oval. ;)
     
  13. Pink Fairy

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    Exactly.
     
  14. bgottschalk

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    Whoa...what did you call me? :eek2:

    :lol: OK - I admit it. And I have no problem using the stretch mode on my TV - does a better job of it anyway. I just wish it wouldn't stretch the guide at the same time, but I guess you can't have everything.
     
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