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New HR21 - $99 + $5/mo. lease???

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by barkster99, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. EricJRW

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    My deal:

    D* called me once a month for the past 6 months. Deal keeps getting better and better.

    Last offer was non-DVR for free, so I asked about DVR. First it was $199, then $99, then I pay for shipping ($20) and as it turns out tax ($20). So mine was $40. The only additional charge is the DVR fee, it looks like the lease fee gets added, and credited each month, though I have yet to see a new bill since the install.

    Since I had OTA, and lost it with the HR21, I managed the AM21 for $27 (half off).

    MikeW: But if you sell them, even for a loss, at least you can earn interest on the money... I doubt those boxes will increase in value, and they only thing you'll collect with them is dust... Unless you have future plans.
     
  2. vurbano

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    The privaledge of having the box sitting in your home. Eventually these ridiculous upfront costs will have to be done away with. I have never paid an upfront lease fee for anything and never will.
     
  3. evan_s

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  4. grizzly

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    Or you can buy a owned HR20 unit off of craigslist for $80 which gives you built in OTA
     
  5. barkster99

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    Thanks for everyone's input. I asked nice for them to throw me some kind of bone but they didn't bite. As pointed out above, the $5 lease fee I'll never see since this is my only receiver, and that's what was bugging me the most. Ended up at $99 with free shipping and install. Better than the $299 and $199 I'd been quoted previously. Install is next Wednesday. Looking forward to the move to HD.

    Now hope they come through with local HDs as stated in recent press release. The CSR was clueless. Otherwise I'll need the AM21.

    As a longtime Tivo user, I can join the ranks of those that go through the anguish of no more Tivo. Damn! Let the games begin!
     
  6. evan_s

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    Thats possible but from my understanding something you have to be careful about. Most HR20's are leased not owned and you are likely to end up with a leased unit that was suppose to be returned and you will be unable to activate it.
     
  7. jimb726

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    Just be very careful that you get the RID checked before you buy it. And I seem to recall a thread several months ago where a person bought a HR20 off of eBay, checked the RID, was told it was clean and then went to hook it up and found out it was leased. Then the seller was no where to be found. The only way to be 100% safe is from a trusted reseller or DirecTv itself.
     
  8. rudeney

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    You are not going to get immediately canceled by saying “cancel service” at the initial voice response prompt! All that will happen is that you get connected to a specialized CSR in the Customer Retention department.

    Of course if you then say you are calling to cancel, or something like, “I’m canceling unless you do X for me,” then yes, you might get canceled at that point. However, if you nicely explain that you’ve been a long-time subscriber, paid your bill on time, and are gathering competing offers for an upgrade to HD, you might just get what a really good deal.
     
  9. rudeney

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    Not only that, D* prohibits the sale of their new self-branded receivers except by authorized dealers. Even if you truly do own the unit, as an individual, you are breaking the license agreement on the software (really, firmware) contained within the device if you sell or transfer it. Of course it’s really just a “Strategy” to keep up-front lease prices artificially high, but this is D*’s stuff and they can do as they please. Let’s just hope that other companies whose hardware contains licensed software doesn’t jump on this bandwagon. You could end up not being able to sell your car or even your old dishwasher!
     
  10. bwaldron

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    Yes, I understand the how and why people do it.
     
  11. scrybigtv

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    Don't know what kind of autos you've been leasing, wingrider, but I've been leasing for about 16 years and I've never paid a cent up front. I do make monthly lease payments, of course.
     
  12. NR4P

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    I agree with the consenus and glad you took the offer.

    Before you activate it, be sure to ask the question "Does this include any commitment of any kind?"

    It probably does include a 2 year contract. If you are OK with that, great. If not, don't activate it.
     
  13. tcusta00

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    careful... it most likely isn't owned and will be a crap shoot as to whether it'll actually work.
     
  14. ahatten

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    I saw this offer online. Anybody have any idea how long this offer is good for? The website doesn't state.
     
  15. tivoman

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    FYI - Make sure they added the slimline 5LNB dish to the work order? (If you just have a standard 2LNB dish.) I just had my install today [HD upgrade] and they didn't have a dish with them.
     
  16. EricJRW

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    Good point... The 5-LNB was missing from my order too. Luckily the tech was able to call D* and add it on the fly.
     
  17. rudeney

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    +1 on that. While up-front cash can lower your payment and save you a little interest, you can also end up losing it if the car is stolen or totaled. Whatever cash you put down up front will depreciate just as quickly as the car itself.

    As for the up-front lease payment on D* receivers, the good news is that the longer you keep the receiver, the more value you get form that initial investment. Of course you do still have the same risk in losing it if for some reason you have to terminate the lease early. Having that *and* ETF’s is sort of a double-whammy for someone that wants to leave D* before the end of the commitment period.
     
  18. rustynails

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    Now most dealerships are rethinking leasing because they can't sell the big cars or trucks once the lease is up. Of couse with D they just give the returned leased receiver to another new sub.
    I really don't like the 2 year commitments but I don't want to pay full price for a dvr or cell phone, etc.
     
  19. rudeney

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    Actually, the dealership doesn’t lease vehicles; they always sell them. It’s the finance companies and finance arms of manufacturers that do the leasing and in turn they pay the dealer for the car, just as if it were a loan. The only time leasing adversely affects dealers are in a few rare cases where the manufacturer has required them to buy end-of-lease vehicles at the artificially inflated residuals. Chrysler Financial has said they will stop offering leases, but of course it makes sense because their vehicles drop value very quickly.

    Yeah, then D* will re-lease that used equipment for *another* up-front fee. At least with cars, they depreciate so used cars are less expensive. In the case of cell phones, you do have a choice; you can buy “last year’s technology” in a used phone and (usually) activate it without a commitment. In some cases, this can be even be less expensive than the “deals” offered on new equipment with a contract. Unfortunately, you really can’t do this with D* because they control their proprietary equipment, even on the used market.
     
  20. wingrider01

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    Curious, both my cars are leased through the manufacturer leasing section write the check directly to the manufacturer, no 3rd party leasing company involved. If they stop offering leases i will switch to a manufacturer that is still offering them, refuse to deal with 3rd party companies.

    Leases go through cycles, have been leasing autos for the last 36 years, there was a period of time when the manufacturers where pushing sales of the autos and downplaying leases, then the trend switched to what is it now, now it is going back to the push of the sales
     

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