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New / recent S/W for receivers (just a mention)...

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by Darkman, Sep 17, 2005.

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  1. Nov 2, 2006 #221 of 491
    P Smith

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    This is marketing name of DP811. Same STB.
     
  2. Nov 2, 2006 #222 of 491
    Darkman

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    ya.. i know DP381 is the same as DP811 .. use the same s/w at the least etc..

    So then.. DP381 does NOT even show in the stream?
     
  3. Nov 3, 2006 #223 of 491
    James Long

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    The DP381 thinks it is a DP811 and uses the same software. :)
     
  4. Nov 3, 2006 #224 of 491
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    Rather maybe, ...stream, air or whatever think that DP381 is DP811.. and therefore are NOT displaying DP381 mention in P Smith's output(s) :D
     
  5. Nov 3, 2006 #225 of 491
    James Long

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    No.

    Think of it as a card file. The receiver looks through the card file for a match and if a match is found and the firmware has not already been downloaded the download happens. The card file doesn't look through the users. :)

    BTW: "Match" includes different levels --- not just receiver model and serial range.
     
  6. Nov 3, 2006 #226 of 491
    James Long

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    Posts deleted as requested ...
    You noted that the DP381 isn't in the list yet still gets software? That's what I was referring to:
    They are the same unit using the same software.
     
  7. Nov 3, 2006 #227 of 491
    P Smith

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    If someone will post System Info screen of DP381 then we will have more facts :), but for now we forced to speculate.
    I think internally the DP381 acting as normal DP811. Probably just a label changed, but System Info will tell us for sure.
     
  8. Nov 3, 2006 #228 of 491
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    Have they modified the 381 to not show the dish HD channels or will they just not activate them? Also does it show 381 in sysinfo?
     
  9. Nov 3, 2006 #229 of 491
    James Long

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    That's the question.

    I believe the DP381 is a 811 with the "HD off" - but I have not seen a report of one "in the wild" yet.

    The SYSINFO screens from E*'s website are attached below. (I'm assuming these are faked graphics since the font isn't right on the "DISH 381".) It is likely that there is a software flag that is set based on authorizations to tell the unit if it is a 811 or 381.
     

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  10. Nov 3, 2006 #230 of 491
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    Nope.. LOL..
    We are still talking "apples and oranges"!

    ALL i noted WAS - that DP381 wasn't listed in P. Smith's output!
    That's all!
    LOL...
    I wasn't even thinking of it getting or not getting s/w!
    Of course it's getting software.. why wouldn't it..
    besides.. DISH's s/w page, Tech Portal .. both list s/w for it, etc..

    All i was saying basically, again... "i did NOT see "DP381" in P.Smith output file
    I know that! :)

    But as you maybe understand now - i wasn't even talking about that :D
     
  11. Nov 3, 2006 #231 of 491
    James Long

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    One last time ---- the DP381 does not need to be listed in P Smith's listings of E*'s available firmware because the DP381 uses DP811 firmware. When the "DP381" looks for new firmware it looks for DP811 firmware.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2006 #232 of 491
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    YES .. Exactly!

    It DOES use the same firmware...

    However... lol.. as to "does" or "does NOT" need to be listed in P Smith's listings - that's another story...

    Of course it doesn't .. nothing will happen if it does or doesn't anyhow..
    Was just asking him if it's NOT there purposely or accidentally...

    Why .. cuz for example have a look at some of the entries in his listing:

    PID:0891h, ID:5GXD, FW:L383, Model: DVR522/DVR625.

    PID:08F0h, ID:07PC, FW:1119, Model: DVR942/ViP622.

    ....
    Those are just some examples from his file. .. BUT .. do you see it?

    If he really wants to basically, i am sure he can make his listing to show:
    "Model: DP811/DP381"

    But he did NOT! .. hehe - not currently anyhow.. (who knows what the future brings) ;)

    So all i did was just asking him for confirmation about this....

    But now that we are talking about it..
    I am pretty sure .. maybe it's not such a bad idea for P Smith to display in the future: "Model: DP811/DP381"

    However.. this is his Listing.. his Output.. and he CAN display or NOT display it if he wants to.. - He is in Charge basically :D

    Do you understand now what i was talking about all along.. :grin:
     
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    Somethings are missing. Notably the 622.
     
  14. Nov 3, 2006 #234 of 491
    James Long

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    Do you want P Smith to lie in his listings?

    He's posting what he sees on the satellites. If there is no firmware tagged as DP381 on the satellite he shouldn't make up a fake line just to make you happy.

    You started this thread to be "(just a mention)" - enough argument ... let's get back on track.
     
  15. Nov 3, 2006 #235 of 491
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    JL, you mean:

    Model: DVR522/DVR625.

    Model: DVR942/ViP622.

    ... You mean P Smith sees it exactly like that "from the air" .. being spelled like this to his computer's s/w? :)

    I was under the impression that he is the one who customized it like that...

    So pretty good idea, i think so anyhow, to list DP381 as well in the output there.. as i said .. maybe as: ""Model: DP811/DP381"

    He would NOT be lying .. in my eyes - his output would be more accurate...

    Cuz "there IS firmware tagged as DP381 on the satellite" (in my opinion anyhow.. cuz after all - it IS listed on DISH sites)

    As you know by now, it's listed HERE and HERE:
    HERE: http://rweb.echostar.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/TechUpdates.shtml
    ( the latest entry there for DP381:
    "11/1/2006: Software Version P3.82 for DP381
    Effective Thursday, November 2nd, Engineering plans to spool a PARTIAL PHASE of software version P3.82 for the DP381 receiver. This is primarily a non-forced maintenance release available at ALL satellite locations.

    At this time P3.81 and P3.82 will be the valid software versions for the DP381.)

    and HERE: http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/customerCare/technical/software_versions/index.asp (at DISH's S/W page)

    So it would NOT be lying :)

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    tnsprin,

    622 is NOT missing in P. Smith's output .. it's there.. - you just have scroll it down with your mouse.. ( have a look .. in post #209 .. in this same thread)
    622 is mentioned there several times...
     
  16. Nov 3, 2006 #236 of 491
    James Long

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    P Smith can format his output as he wishes, hopefully without further harrassment.
     
  17. Nov 3, 2006 #237 of 491
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    LOL,

    JL,
    I wasn't harrassing him ;)

    I just asked him a question originally.. BUT you answered it for him ;)

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    My question to P Smith: post #222
    Your answer to me: post #223

    {EDIT} .. Actually .. i have to appologize somewhat as well .. just looking at my post #222 .. i was NOT that precise and clear in the way i got to the point of what i was asking.. and therefore maybe was easy to be misunderstood :)
     
  18. Nov 3, 2006 #238 of 491
    P Smith

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    Oh man ! You have too much of free time :)

    When you'll post REAL picture of DP381's System Info screen, then you will have some base to insist, for now one time question is enough. :(

    BTW, when first time the DP381 new software has been anonced ?

    EDIT. I found - it was 6/22 at SG site. But that Dish flyers dated 5/24. Question is when they start spooling software for DP381 ?
     
  19. Nov 3, 2006 #239 of 491
    P Smith

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    Yes I see it in the 209 post. But its not in the one I quoted. Apparently he split the lists in his post.
     
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