Hi...I need to vent a little...and finally joined this forum today. I would appreciate any help on this issue...can't believe I am the only one with this problem.... Current Setup: Sony HDTV...New Bravia Model KDL52W4100 - installed 12/08 Reciever... Dish Network Vip612 Current Firmware: L603 Interface: HDMI cable from Vip612 to Sony HDMI port 4 Problem: No problems until sometime after 7/14/09. I was able to Order any PPV movies and DVR them. Second reciever is a Vip211...again no problem ordering and viewing PPV, HBO or anything else. Then last week 7/29/09, I go to order a PPV movie...then a Dish Error message 890 comes out of nowhere...saying the Vip612 has determined that my new SONY which was working fine...is not HDMI/HDCP compatible anymore Tried resets....unplugged everything...different portssame problem. Tried different HDMI cables The last few days I have spoke to both SONY and Dish. The SONY tech said that all their HDTVs are HDCP compliant....they don't even have any menu switch to turn it off. Their only solutions: try the cold start on the receiver with the plug out and if that doesn't work go to Component green/blue/red inputs....still no luck. I called Dish twice....finally got to talk to a second level tech.....they had me check some hard drive values and we got a 17 on #4 and a -2 on #7 which he didn't like....so he sent me a new Vip612 which I got Friday and installed and activitated myself....still same problem.....called them back and had them dispatch a tech installer who came today....they verified I had a good install and they also encountered the same HDCP 890 error message when we tried to order a PPV. He called DISH for a solution/workaround. We went back to the Component GBR connection...but this time, we pulled out the HDMI cable to the SONY...and guess what? We could now order a PPV like I used to be able two weeks ago with the HDMI setup. We even tested the Vip211 on this setup to be sure the HDMI cables were good....So clearly the firmware Vip612 version L603 was updated and downloaded sometime over the past two weeks at the 3:00 a.m. timeframe and some type of new bug came with it....has to be it....The Dish Installer said that DISH would check this out and send me an "email" by next Wednesday on status...but for now, the only way I can order and see a movie on my Vip612 is Component GBR with HDMI cable out of the receiver.....a very awkward workaround for the $$ I pay DISH to rent this piece of junk. This really sucks! I am very upset with DISH and the dummies who invented the worthless HDCP with HDMI. I have been a loyal Dish Network customer since 1997 and have spent a lot of $$ over the years with them...I guess I'm going to have to consider cable if I want this type of entertainment or just turn the damn thing off.... Has anyone else encountered this problem recently? (Mar-August, 2009) I would like to hear from you...thanks!