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News Corp to end Speed and Fuel Channels, convert them to Fox Sports

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by mitchflorida, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Feb 11, 2013 #61 of 133
    CDJohnson25

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    On the bright side, neither ESPN nor Fox Sports have not gone down the Reality Road and replaced their main programming with that crap.

    Yet.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2013 #62 of 133
    pdxBeav

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    Estimates were provided so your assertion is factually incorrect.
     
  3. Feb 11, 2013 #63 of 133
    Hoosier205

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    Nope. Those are estimates. We have no idea what the number really is. Those estimates could well off for all we know.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2013 #64 of 133
    pdxBeav

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    We have estimates so we have an idea. A small amount of research will enlighten the curious mind. Again, your assertion is incorrect.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2013 #65 of 133
    TomK

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    Thank you Ellen.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2013 #66 of 133
    Hoosier205

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    False. We have estimates without any idea how near or far they are from the truth.
     
  7. Feb 11, 2013 #67 of 133
    Tom Robertson

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    A mathematician and an engineer were given the same practical test in a kitchen.

    A cup was placed on the counter and they were told to put them into the cabinet above. Mathematician lifted the cup and set it into the cabinet. As did the engineer.

    Then a cup was placed on the floor for each of them and they were told the same thing, "put the cup into the cabinet".

    This time the engineer went first. Reaching down, he picked up the cup and put it were it belonged in the cabinet.

    The mathematician, calmly picked up his cup from the floor and set it on the counter, saying "the rest has already been done." :)

    Do we know the exact, precise numbers? Of course not. The numbers are not the same for all distributors and they change yearly.

    But we can be fairly certain the numbers aren't "well off". There are ways to calculate income (a reported number) and break it out by ad sales, subscriptions, etc., at least to a degree. Off by 10cents is one thing. Off by a few dollars isn't possible. Couple of hundred million dollars a month kinda sticks out in a corp. bottom line. :)

    Peace,
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  8. Feb 11, 2013 #68 of 133
    RandyOH

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    I have a question about these national Fox sports channels: do they have the contractual rights to simulcast games from their RSNs?
     
  9. Feb 11, 2013 #69 of 133
    tulanejosh

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    Unless you watch every bit of programming on a particular channel 24/7 - you'd still be paying for content you don't watch or want. I'm not in favor of this - but the only model that truly allows someone to only pay for what they want is to purchase by the program.
     
  10. Feb 11, 2013 #70 of 133
    pdxBeav

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    I agree that you don't have any idea how near or far they are from the truth. ;)
     
  11. Feb 11, 2013 #71 of 133
    Hoosier205

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    We
     
  12. Feb 11, 2013 #72 of 133
    tulanejosh

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    And you'll still be paying for content you don't/won't watch. Any subscription based model that offers all you can eat viewing (whether its Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Directv or Time Warner Cable) will force you to pay for content you don't want and don't watch. And you know that... so it's not really about paying for content you don't want is it? You seem more upset at the total $ figure involved.

    I also subscribe to Netflix Streaming (in addition to Directv Premier) and I don't particularly care for Romantic Comedies or Foreign Films.... Netflix should have an option where I can save 27 cents and remove Romantic Comedies from my available option.
     
  13. Feb 11, 2013 #73 of 133
    espnjason

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    I don't know about contractual, but I am led to believe that the various shows and replay games that are duplicated across the Fox Sports Nets would be consolidated into FS1&2.

    There are far too many that complain about the Sports Pack because of the various replications outside of the actual games, notably within the FSN family of channels. Unfortunately, too many fail to realize D*'s scope of serving hundreds of markets within a single infrastructure. I subscribe to the sports pack because I prefer sports news from the various local sources.

    In due course, this would lead to the major teams having greater programming control and localization of their respective RSNs while remaining within the FSN framework.

    With all that said, I wonder if the new FS1&2 would pick up the Super Rugby/Rugby Championship from D* and give it more homes? I sense content migration from Fox Soccer + would be migrated over to at least FS2 thus would lead to more Rugby and Champions League soccer matches in the clear without a separate subscription.

    Given all the properties under the FS umbrella, the cable networks have some serious potential.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2013 #74 of 133
    pdxBeav

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    Ok, ok. I'll give in. Let me rephrase it with your correction:

    "We agree that you don't have any idea how near or far they are from the truth. ;)"

    Tom's post summarizes it correctly, even regarding the engineer and mathematician.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2013 #75 of 133
    TheRatPatrol

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    Fox doesn't have the national rights to carry the NHL or the NBA. So no, they couldn't take an NHL or NBA game from one of their FSN's and show it nationally because they don't have the rights to do so.

    The NHL belongs to NBC.

    The NBA belongs to ABC/ESPN/TNT.

    Not sure about MLB though.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2013 #76 of 133
    Jaspear

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    Multichannel News speculates that they may have the rights to MLB games from teams that have deals with the Fox RSNs:

     
  17. Feb 11, 2013 #77 of 133
    Paul Secic

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    I'm paying for: Lifetime, LMN, STYLE, AMC GROUP, E!, A&E, GOLF, CLOO, on and on.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2013 #78 of 133
    tonyd79

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    Oh. So. Wrong.

    Their rights are regional.

    They do have national cable rights to some games in the next deal.
     
  19. Feb 11, 2013 #79 of 133
    mhking

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    I would speculate that at least some form of this would exist, considering how much crossover NBC Sports Network has picked up from the Comcast Sports Group.
     
  20. Feb 11, 2013 #80 of 133
    nmetro

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    Similar to branding in Australia and New Zealand. One has to wonder if we will see international sport from the Fox owned Sky Sports and Fox Sports networks overseas. That will really make things interesting and worth it a 80 cents per channel.
     

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