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News Corp to end Speed and Fuel Channels, convert them to Fox Sports

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by mitchflorida, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Feb 11, 2013 #81 of 133
    donalddickerson2005

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    I hope though that they will show more than 1 game on Saturday afternoon now. Put the main game on fox and then 2 others on fox 1-2.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2013 #82 of 133
    alnielsen

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    Speed (a part of Fox Sports) has.
    Car Warriors
    Dangerous Drives
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    Wrecked
     
  3. Feb 11, 2013 #83 of 133
    sigma1914

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    Probably ... Fuel had Rugby this morning.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2013 #84 of 133
    mitchflorida

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    The last time I checked, Netflix was not charging me $90+ a month for their programming. Netflix only charges me $8. And I actually liked their new show House of Cards!
     
  5. Feb 11, 2013 #85 of 133
    adkinsjm

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    The writers for Multichannel News are generally ignorant on many things. They usually just rewrite press releases.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2013 #86 of 133
    KyL416

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    Unlike the networks, Netflix doesn't have to fund the development of shows from the start. Not every new show is a success, even shows that don't make it past pilot still cost money since the actors, writers and crew still need to get paid for filming the rejected pilot.

    Now if Netflix decides to start actively developing shows from the scratch like the networks do (complete with rejected pilots and failed shows that do get picked up but get cancelled after 2-3 episodes), instead of just picking up shows that were further along in the process like House of Cards, or already established shows with a known cult following like Arrested Development, there's no way that $8 a month subscription will fund that and the license fees for acquired movies and programming from other networks.
     
  7. Feb 11, 2013 #87 of 133
    adkinsjm

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    Rugby league, which FOX already has the rights to.
     
  8. Feb 11, 2013 #88 of 133
    tonyd79

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    In other words, it is not paying for things you don't watch, it is the price of things you don't watch, which, I think was a point a few posts back.

    And been my point all along. Nobody cares if the channel they don't watch costs 2 cents. It is when it costs 5 bucks and probably impacts your bill when we care.

    It is not a la carte that people care about, it is how much money they are spending.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2013 #89 of 133
    donalddickerson2005

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    Maybe fox can pick up the cricket ticket and put it on fox sports 1-2
     
  10. Feb 11, 2013 #90 of 133
    tulanejosh

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    Right - so I think you are missing my point. Like i said, based on what you are now saying, it's not really about whether or not you are paying for content you don't want, it's about what you bill total is.

    And you know, just putting this out there, Cable and Satellite were at one point cheaper as well. It's not like Netflix or (insert alt company here) is going to be immune from price hikes forever. So in your own words - good luck! But i gotta ask, what are you going to do when Netflix has to start charging market rate?
     
  11. Feb 11, 2013 #91 of 133
    Mike Bertelson

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    I don't know about now but in 1999-2000 our local cable company (Century Norwich Cable, Century Communications) was paying >$1/subscriber.

    From Jan. '98 to Apr. '00 the per subscriber cost of ESPN (again Century Norwich Cable) increased 43%. At that rate it could easily be approaching $8/sub.

    Mike
     
  12. Feb 11, 2013 #92 of 133
    ThomasM

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    It's too bad DirecTV doesn't move ALL the sports channels into a sports tier like cable and reduce the package prices for those of us who never watch them (me).
     
  13. Feb 11, 2013 #93 of 133
    sigma1914

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    What cable companies put ESPN in a sports tier?
     
  14. Feb 11, 2013 #94 of 133
    mitchflorida

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    [QUOTE But i gotta ask, what are you going to do when Netflix has to start charging market rate?[/QUOTE]


    When it gets up to $90 a month in 40 years, I will cancel it.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2013 #95 of 133
    tonyd79

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    How about when you ISP begins to cap your downloads?
     
  16. Feb 11, 2013 #96 of 133
    pdxBeav

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    +1. This is the bigger concern.
     
  17. Feb 11, 2013 #97 of 133
    stlcardsblues

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    Did they learn from when they tried this in 1997 and failed. Guess Fox will keep trying until they get it right.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2013 #98 of 133
    stlcardsblues

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    If they do this, they would need to group all the channels into categories. My cable company tried this done years ago and it was expensive to order the channels you wanted.
     
  19. Feb 11, 2013 #99 of 133
    Tom Robertson

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    I think that DIRECTV would be happy to do this if they could. There are channels, like ESPN, that if a distributor tried to move into a separate tier, the channel would laugh and say, "No". And should the distributor then drop the channel, they might as well shut down the company.

    Since ESPN, CNN, and a few others won't move, the distributors have no choice. Those channels are still too important to distributors.

    In fact, perhaps the only way it could happen would be a whole new distributor who could build a model entirely around not having those channels and plan the infrastructure accordingly. That might be the only way for a breakthrough to occur.

    Peace,
    Tom
     
  20. wmb

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    I'm not so sure. Cable internet margins are off the chart according to this:

    http://bgr.com/2013/02/06/cable-company-internet-service-margins-316532/

    A cable company can make $50+ per house for high speed internet alone over the wires that they are currently making $50 per house for providing TV, and having to pay retransmit fees for the programming, reducing their margins. Of course for Netflicks and streaming options, you NEED premium high speed offerings at higher cost.:grin:
     

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