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NewsMix Channel 352 - No More

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by SomeRandomIdiot, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. ben 11

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    What would you suggest? Go to another provider that does not have newsmix or sportsmix or the concept of any "mix"?

    If newsmix is important to DTV as you suggest, why do you think it was pulled other than a "business" decision.

    What aspect of business are you referring to?

    The ones speculated about here and elsewhere?

    Which ones are more likely?
     
  2. Hoosier205

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    I never said it was important to them. I said they would know how important it was.
     
  3. ben 11

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    Get outta here - who would have guessed?

    The DTV audience is more interested in buying stuff than quality of content and being informed?

    Infotainment and dumming down has won out again.

    I would hope that it would come to light that they have seriously misjudged a lot of their audience.
     
  4. mrro82

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    Wow. I can't believe how big of a deal this has become. The channels didn't disappear so what's the issue? If there is something important going on they all will have it on. If not then it falls into what you want from your news. Want left bashing lies? Tune to Fox News. Want left wondering why the right is insane? Tune to MSNBC. Want tabloid-ish "news"? Tune to HLN. Want (insert whatever you call what CNN does now here)? Tune to CNN. Seems simple to me.
     
  5. Stuart Sweet

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    We do not want to discuss petitioning. As I have discussed with you, links to petitions are against forum rules, and calls to class action of any kind are discouraged here.

    Let's get back to topic without discussing petitions and other group actions.
     
  6. ben 11

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    Yes, true enough.

    There were 8 - 9 channels in all including Bloomberg, Current (sometimes), Weatherchannel, Fox business, CNBC and the other 4 mentioned.

    The whole point was the same with SportsMix - that you could jump from one channel to the other while comparing one to the other and simultaneously monitor or comparison shop your information - like having 8 TV's going at the same time and all you had to do was simply have the ability to multi-task.

    With younger viewers who's functionality seems to be part of their DNA (just watch and ask my young nephew), you'd think that that demographic would be catered to by making this channel available (even promoting it) to them too.

    That's unless DTV is too tone-deaf to realize that and think that the younger demo will just go to the internet to comparison shop their information. They think that the youngish demo won't also be attracted and watch NewsMix too?

    When you look at an actual newsroom shot, there's got to be a reason that there are all those TV monitors with all the other sources of news going on - to monitor information - power in the information age.

    As consumers of information, we got that sucked out from under us so that that kind of functionality is not available anymore.

    Why is there Sportsmix then? We want or need to monitor sports but not also information that actually affects our daily lives?

    While I imagine there are probably more sports junkies than news junkies, what ever happened to the marketplace of ideas that competitive journalism was supposed to be serving?

    Call me naive but just because those 8 or 9 channels aren't the height of journalism, Newsmix at least served the purpose of giving old fashioned competition a good name.

    For example, what is the TV media doing with information compared to online media? Who or what do you trust for information?

    I always thought there was a huge advantage in being informed as a consumer to make up our own minds by getting as many viewpoints as possible by monitoring our media (supposedly still the 4th estate or column in our democracy).

    Whether you are political or apolitical, I would think that it would be principled to at least have that kind of thing made available to the general population to create an environment that is democratic and competitive.

    Maybe that's simply just good business sense, in today's terms, for a content provider like DTV to take more control of the very news that they themselves provide.


    Off Soapbox.
     
  7. hbkbiggestfan

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    I don't see what the big deal is. I know some of you will miss News Mix, but it was a service D* provided free of charge and have decided to discontinue. We were never paying for it. At least we had it unlike all the other cable subscribers. It wasn't even in HD. And if you choose D* just for News Mix, what's wrong with you?!?!
     
  8. ben 11

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    You were able to get a discount if you "unsubscribed" to just NewsMix?

    I certainly didn't have that option as far as I knew.
     
  9. Hoosier205

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    No. He never claimed any such thing.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2012 #110 of 214
    ben 11

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    What rationale could possibly be used to claim that ANY programming that you pay for in ANY package is "free"?

    Newsmix was never offered to the general public a la carte as far as I could determine.
     
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    Hoosier205

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    It was a feature provided at no additional cost. The same as any other feature you do not have to subscribe to aside from your base packages. Just like HotPass.
     
  12. Dec 1, 2012 #112 of 214
    ndole

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    I will miss the news mix. I hope it comes back. I used it everyday.
    With that said, some folks in this thread are ridiculous. You're nuts if you think that some sort of 'list' of names will do anything. Who are you giving that to? Congress? Sure, they'll fix your gripe :lol:

    Hopefully it will come back in some form. Maybe as a Connected Home kind of content, rather than an interactive channel. If not, I'll miss it. Who knows? The provider decides what they want to provide. If you don't like that, find a provider that does. At the moment (and probably into the future), nobody else provides this programming either.
    'Nuff said'.
     
  13. Dec 1, 2012 #113 of 214
    LDighera

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    While I have no way of knowing how much influence the restriction against reception of PBS in HD in Santa Barbara, CA influenced the DirecTV customer service representative's decision, no compensation was offered until I mentioned the loss of NewsMix. I am unable to offer any tangible evidence of this billing credit at this time, however she did say to reduce the payment of my current bill by ~$60.00, so I presume it's legitimate.
     
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    ben 11

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    With due respect, what am I missing?

    How could one separate out what was a feature at no "additional" cost?

    As I understand it, Newsmix was built into the cost of any package.

    I never saw it represented or advertised any other way.

    That would be like saying the base price of a car included everything on the car at no "additional" cost.

    I understand the salesmanship angle but I do not understand the logic that I was not paying for it if it was not offered a la carte.
     
  15. Dec 1, 2012 #115 of 214
    Laxguy

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    I'd bet an arm and a leg and all that holds them onto your body that it's $5 for 12 months. But good on ya if it's way more.
     
  16. Dec 1, 2012 #116 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    Some features require an additional fee, while others do not. That makes it incredibly simply to identify which features are provided at no additional cost.

    There also is no additional retrans fee from DirecTV to the content owners to offer the mix. There is no cost to build into a base package. The only "cost" is the capacity it eats that could be used for other purposes. We still have every single channel from the mix. It was only the remaps to the mix that were discontinued.
     
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    Hoosier205

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    It would appear on your account when you login. Tangible evidence is easy to produce when it comes to credits.
     
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    ben 11

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    And if another provider doesn't - tough, outta luck? The mega-corp rules in those if not every circumstance?

    That may be true - and if it is, no wonder there is such growing uneasiness in the body politik about the diminishing power of the individual.

    I wouldn't disagree with those who would say that the present behavior of increasingly behemoth corporations like DTV resembles "What's good for DTV is good for everybody".
     
  19. Dec 1, 2012 #119 of 214
    Hoosier205

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    You pay for a service. You pay for access to what channels that service provider has agreements with content owners for. You do not pay for individual channels. The channels offered are not guaranteed and are subject to change. You have two options if you are unhappy: choose another provider or launch your own service.
     
  20. Dec 1, 2012 #120 of 214
    ben 11

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    OK - then not to put too fine a point on it - what is the definition of a "feature" in this whole DTV world?

    Is everything other than just straight transmission considered a "feature" - and by whom?

    You could then represent features as "a la carte" to death if it were only in your best interest to do so and if you wanted to.

    It would be like saying a lawnmower "featured" an extra special high titanium crankshaft when all lawn mowers had high titanium crankshafts.

    Basically what I am saying is that it is easy to make distinctions without a real-world difference except for the purpose of heaping on extra profit.

    It's beginning to sound like some car salesmanship stuff (no disrespect to car salesmen in general) - and I wouldn't think you or others would fall for that kind of thing either.
     

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