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NFL Sunday Ticket Cost/Benefit/Value Continues to Degrade

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by 1948GG, Oct 13, 2013.

  1. slice1900

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    They're probably moving away from Saturday games in December because college football continues to expand into December. All the conference championships are in the first week in December, and bowl games take up the last Saturday or two in December. There are only two Saturdays that are free.
     
  2. renbutler

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    Trust me, the NFL isn't worried about college football. The only reason the NFL isn't playing on Friday and Saturday all year is because they aren't allowed to by law.

    They moved the Saturday games because of the Thursday package. That's been reported pretty widely as fact. And they made it up to CBS/FOX/ESPN (which previously carried those Saturday games) by giving both FOX and CBS doubleheaders in week 17 and ESPN the extra game in week 1.

    If anything, college football is playing bowl games on Saturdays because the NFL isn't, not the other way around. If CFB is prince, NFL is still king.
     
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    Originally the NFL made a deal with the NCAA that it would not play Saturday games if colleges would not play Sunday games. At that time college football was king and the NFL was struggling to build a fan base. Now of course the NFL has the power and they can do what the want but except for those couple of late season Saturday games they stay away from treading on the NCAAs toes.
     
  5. Sandra

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    Kinda like this coming Monday Night's game...the Minnesota Vikings (1-4) at the NY Giants (0-6). :eek:

    But your point is partially valid, as later in the season can flex in games from Sunday afternoon.


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  6. Sandra

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    The late season Saturday games no longer exist, and when they did exist the games were in late December, after the college regular season had ended.


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  7. renbutler

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    I gotta say that this is a little bit surprising.

    Of course, they can still do this without adding another short week by giving teams two consecutive Thursday games.
     
  8. lacubs

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    the NFL can't enough money, if does ruin this league, the players don't want this!
     
  9. JoeTheDragon

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    NBCSN was looking at getting some Thursday games but the NFL did not like there idea to not have the games on OTA tv in the local team areas.
     
  10. renbutler

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    Look at the ratings. Everything they touch is turning to gold. There's no reason they shouldn't keep trying things, and stick with what works and change what doesn't. It's a business, and there's nothing wrong with that. Without money, the league doesn't exist and thrive.

    As for the players, they'll have their say. Nothing will happen without NFLPA approval.
     
  11. dcowboy7

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    Thats not really true.

    The 13 NFLN games are the 26 teams that dont play thanksgiving.

    So that accually hurts NFLN because instead of being able to show teams like cowboys,packers,ravens they have to show jaguars,bucs.
     
  12. slice1900

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    The Lions and the Cowboys are the only teams that always play Thanksgiving. So NFLN will be able to show games involving any of the other 30. I don't see how it hurts them to be able to show the Patriots, Broncos, Bears, and so on and only have two teams they don't ever show.

    People would watch a Thanksgiving game even if it was the Jaguars vs the Bucs because it is Thanksgiving and people have the day off and it has become a tradition to watch football that afternoon.
     
  13. renbutler

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    Ever, perhaps. But in a given season, NFL Network will be showing only 26 teams, and it must by rule include one game for the Jags, Bucs, Browns, Bills, etc. (assuming those teams don't get a rare TG game). This year NFLN cannot show the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, or Ravens, because those teams already have short-week games on TG.

    The other networks pay huge money for the Sunday afternoon and evening packages, and even the Monday package, so NFLN isn't going to poach a bunch of blockbuster matchups for Thursday, even if doubleheaders are added. There are only so many possible matchups they can show, which is why they get a lot of mid-tier and some low-tier divisional games.
     
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    Some sports shows yesterday were talking about a 2nd Thursday night game to be sold to a streaming company like Netflix, etc. I don't think that will happen but the NFL is always looking at ideas for more revenue.
     
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    they need commercials, can you put commercials on Netfilx?, i see a network like the USA Network
     
  16. trainman

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    I'm sure they could if they wanted. For example, there are commercials inserted during the streaming baseball games on MLB.TV.
     
  17. dcowboy7

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    Right thats what i mean that because of these restrictions they cant get many above avg quality matchups.

    If SNF games are an A+ & MNF are B then NFLN is a C-.

    So unless they want to change the rules thats all they are meant to be like an extra supplement to the week.
     
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    Now they conflict on Thursdays with both a college game and a pro game on at the same time. Last night Miami vs North Carolina and Seattle vs Arizona.
     
  19. renbutler

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    Yes, but there is no legal requirement for NFL to avoid Thursdays. They do, however have to avoid Friday (most high school games) and Saturday (most college games) until the middle of December.

    Colleges can play on any day they want, but they are protected only on Saturdays.
     
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    Why do they "need" commercials? There's no requirement that a football game broadcast have commercials. The NFL is going to sell the rights for a set price, and if Netflix didn't want to sell commercials they wouldn't have to.

    At any rate, there's also no reason they couldn't put commercials on Netflix, other than customer perception. The video feed would be produced normally just like any football game, including commercial breaks, and then it would be fed into Netflix's encoding system. There's no technical hurdle there.
     

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