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  1. Aug 23, 2012 #41 of 602
    trh

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    I just looked at My Sports and NHL Center Ice is listed. $0.00
     
  2. Aug 23, 2012 #42 of 602
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    When does the billing start for the upcoming season -- assuming that there is a season? Before of after 9/1?
     
  3. Aug 23, 2012 #43 of 602
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    Looks like they are holding the billing until we know for sure if there is going to be a season.
     
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    That was going to be my next question. Let's just hope we don't make it to 9/15 with these same questions.
     
  5. Aug 28, 2012 #45 of 602
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    NHL labor update

    Talks, resumed Tuesday and just after 4pm the meetings wrapped up with the NHL making a counter proposal to the NHLPA's proposal from 2 weeks ago.

    NHLPA will review tonight / morning and talks will continue tomorrow.

    lets hope they find some platform to agree on.
     
  6. Aug 28, 2012 #46 of 602
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    this saturday 9/1 usually is the first day directv starts taking early bird offers for NHL CI for the new season.

    usually channel 107 or somewhere around there usually is used incase people want to order via remote.

    So i wonder if both will be delayed until they have assurance of new season
     
  7. Aug 28, 2012 #47 of 602
    la24philly

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    here are a few tweets i thought were interesting following the NHL's counter proposal.

    @michaelgrange: Bettman -- we made a counter proposal, we believe it was significant and had movement #NHL #NHLPA #CBA

    @michaelgrange: Bettman -- re: counter offering: in order to move the process along ... I'm trying to get us speaking the same language #CBA #NHL #NHLPA


    @RenLavoieRDS: Gary Bettman: "we are not far apart on the revenue sharing."

    @ChrisBottaNHL: Bettman says revenue sharing "will not break or break this deal" and sides are close enough on that issue. Big issue is contracts.
     
  8. Aug 28, 2012 #48 of 602
    la24philly

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    guys, as you notice i changed my avatar pic, from my flyers logo to the sword of omens, its at a point where i need

    SIGHT BEYOND SIGHT

    to hopefully pray to god we have a new deal. I really don't want to into the fall without hockey
     
  9. Aug 28, 2012 #49 of 602
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    NCAA hockey! And Penn State is building a new facility and will be going Division 1 (I think next season).
     
  10. Aug 28, 2012 #50 of 602
    la24philly

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    thats cool, i had no clue penn state was getting into hockey.

    the only arena that i knew being built around my area is the phantoms new arena.

    phantoms are moving to allentown and its a permanant move thank god.

    here is a updated look at the new site

    http://www.phantomsarena.com/

    they begin playing hockey in allentown october 2013.

    they play in glen falls NY 1 more year.

    the penguins AHL is 1 hr north in scranton.

    so this will be fun.
     
  11. Aug 28, 2012 #51 of 602
    trh

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    They have had pretty good teams for a long time. Link here on their schedule for this year. And I was wrong: it looks like they will be Division 1 team this year as an Independent, but then next season they will be in the newly formed Big Ten conference (Penn State going Division 1 had a huge ripple effect throughout College Hockey).

    Their new $88 million hockey arena ground breaking was earlier this year and is schedule for completion in Sept. 2013. All thanks to a donation by Terrence Pegula, new owner of the Buffalo Sabres.
     
  12. Aug 28, 2012 #52 of 602
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  13. Aug 28, 2012 #53 of 602
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    NHL labor update, i found some other tweets and have a possible break down of the NHL counter proposal, here is what the NHL is proposing, that the NHL PA is revewing tonight and will continue to meet again with NHL.

    aaronward_nhl 3:31pm via Twitter for iPhone
    Fehr,NHLPA lawyers presently reviewing NHL proposal w/ intent of 'staying on pace'.Expect comment on proposal & more clarity tomorrow #TSN


    michaelgrange 3:31pm via Twitter for iPhone
    Some details on #NHL proposal; told league to phase in new HRR split: 52-48 (players) in yr 1; 50-50 in yr 2 etc #NHL #CBA #NHLPA



    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    NHL proposed a 6 year term today. Players Share: 2012/13 - 51.6% 2013/14 - 50.5% 2014/15 - 49.6% 2015/16 - 50% 2016/17 - 50% 2017/18 - 50%

    The NHL proposal calls for a fixed salary cap of $58 million next season and then caps of $60 million and $62 million. Under the plan, the league projected a fourth-year salary cap of $64.2 million, a fifth year at $67.6 million and the final season's cap of $71.1 million.

    The NHL is not asking for any rollback in current contracts, suggesting that the adjustment could be made through changes in contracting practices, increases in league-wide revenue and contributions to player escrow.

    Although the league has proposed a fix-dollar amount for the first three years, the league's proposal includes a provision for players to receive more if revenue growth exceeds 10%.



    This is a great offer for both sides, though we would have to see what concessions the NHL is willing to give the NHLPA. Haven't seen anything regarding that yet.
     
  14. Aug 28, 2012 #54 of 602
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    Hey la24philly,

    Since you seem to be keeping up with the negotiations, is there any word on whether the CBA addresses possible league realignment? Wasn't one of the reasons that the proposal for the new divisions was shot down by the NHLPA last year that they wanted to deal with it in the new CBA?
     
  15. Aug 29, 2012 #55 of 602
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    From the Canadian Press

    Players currently get 57% of the revenues; the NHL wanted to lower that to 43%. Current proposal by the league is 50. PA was at 54.

    I haven't seen anything mentioned about realignment. When the PA said no to the propsed realignment back in January, Bettman was quick to point out that previously the PA had never approved, disapproved or asked for a review on any previous alignment changes. And under the current CBA, they don't have the right too. The league stopped their realignment as a sign of good faith and in an effort not to upset the players with upcoming negotiations.

    I'm gearing up for no NHL this season. With the Sports Pack, there are quite a few college games broadcast, but those are normally only on the weekends. I wonder if the NHL will pick up any minor league games?
     
  16. Aug 29, 2012 #56 of 602
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    i believe the realignment issue will be apart of the talks laster towards the end of negotiations.

    Both sides are prioritizing, and the main issue is CORE ECONOMIC ISSUES.

    REV SPLIT

    CONTRACTS

    CAP

    if the cap is lowered to 58m teams are going to have to shed a ton of money. 16 teams would be over the cap, ex flyers would have to shed 9 mil this season alone to get under the 58 cap.

    Wild would be pissed, they just had there best free agent summer ever, and i not sure who'd be cut, but they would have a hell of a time getting under.

    then in year 2 the cap goes to 60, year 3 62 year 4 64 , year 5 67, and tops out in the final year of the 6 year proposal at 71.5


    they might include an amnesty for this year, it wasn't announced but if they are going to ask teams to shed 9-12 mill, im thinking amnesty could be in play here.



    bottom line, my overall gut says the PA will not accpet this deal, however both sides were looking for some platform on which to build and be on some what of a same page.

    they have accomplished that with one of the big core issues - THE REV SPLIT

    basically 50-50 players were at 57 rev last year, NHL proposed 43 in there 1st proposal in july, which was a joke of a number.

    so atleast both sides are now on common ground on rev split.
     
  17. Aug 29, 2012 #57 of 602
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    the nhl wants to reduce is overall financial demands by 120 million in the first year of the proposal.

    so far heading into today, everyone is expecting the NHL PA to oppose this deal. So did i.

    both sides will meet again on wednesday, I just hope both can agree on the rev split which is 50-50 and start to build again.
     
  18. Aug 29, 2012 #58 of 602
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    Two lost seasons within eight years? No wonder the term "cement head" originated in the NHL.
     
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    if a lockout happens it will be the 3rd in bettman's regime i wish he would be fired, or quit, or somethign just get out of hockey
     
  20. Aug 29, 2012 #60 of 602
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    we have some breaking news, not sure if its good or bad or what but 530 will know



    Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl

    There will be a conference call @5:30 pm EST today between negotiating committee,executive board & players to discuss NHL proposal. #TSN
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