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NHL Center Ice 2010-11

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by stoutman, Jul 10, 2010.

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  1. Oct 6, 2010 #781 of 2914
    stoutman

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    In demand is still stuck in the two to three mode. I heard on these boards that the infrastructure for In Demand will be greatly expanded shortly. It will be up to each system to accommodate with extra bandwidth.
     
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    stout i spoke to a comcast rep about why there are hardly HD channels for indemand sports.

    He told me that 2011-2012 there will be an improvement as far as bandwidth increase.

    not sure if every channel will be HD ready w indemand but anything is better than 0
     
  3. Oct 6, 2010 #783 of 2914
    JoeTheDragon

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    you may want to add 1 for WGN HD Shaw Broadcast Services feeds it out but can D* just mirror / fiber out the Chicago feed that they have now if they want?

    There some games this year that are just on WGN or rogers sports net 1. There may also be some WGN / other OTA only games as well. Also a feed from WGN / WCIU will help for MLB EI and NBA LP. Some WGN bulls games are Chicago only but all Chicago only stuff is on the wgn Canadian feed as well.

    In Demand is so far behind that even if they added 1 HD feed per game D* will still be way better with most games with a dual feed.

    they don't even have the room to show just about all NBA / MLB / NHL games in dual feed SD.

    IN Demand Up to 12 HD games a week.

    Directv Most games on NHL® CENTER ICE® are also broadcast in HD,
    and many have dual HD feeds.

    As for Canada feeds IN Demand told us last year they have all 4 rogers sports nets (no info sports net 1 / sports net 1 sub feeds was the old PPV feeds) NO CBC HD I think CBC can do 2-3 feeds.
    NO TSN HD
    NO TSN 2 HD
    NO leafs tv HD
    NO RDS (used if only feed)
    NO RIS (used if only feed)
    NO The Score
    NO Raptors NBA TV
     
  4. Oct 6, 2010 #784 of 2914
    JoeTheDragon

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    SDV is what comcast is working on.

    Comcast can also feed in there own CSN channels with out indemand + the few FSN / other rsn channels on comcast systems.
     
  5. Oct 6, 2010 #785 of 2914
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    I blame Bettman and the NHL for not providing the equipment.I bet someone with the NHL decided that there are more hd broadcasts than cable can show with NHLCI so there was no reason to spend the money.

    If the NHL can afford the money they choose to spend in PHX,they could have easily paid for HD equipment for all cable and sat companies providing the NHLCI.

    The NHL also could afford to pay for the rights to every HD game from Canada for all providers of the NHLCI.


    With the small number of NHLCI subs with D* ,I can understand why they don't think the extra costs for just the HD telecasts are justified.Since they already have the sd games on NHLCI.
     
  6. Oct 6, 2010 #786 of 2914
    Peter305

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    Looking at the first few days of the NHL CI schedule which is posted here

    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/sports/nhl_schedules

    I don't see any Canadian HD feeds. We might get some from Sportsnet Ontario for Leafs games but that will be it. I have resigned myself to this and also to the fact that we probably won't get ANY TSN feeds even in SD unless they are the ONLY source for games. Yes this is bad, yes it shouldn't be happening, but I don't see that there is much any of us can do about it.
     
  7. Oct 6, 2010 #787 of 2914
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    While I am in 100% agreement with everyone about the Canadian HD feed, I will say there has been some progress. No, we are not receiving most of the Canadian feeds, but, now, unlike last year, almost every game is being broadcast in HD somewhere (visiting team/NHL Network). There will of course be alot of 2nd games of HNIC w/ no HD, which I don't know why NHL Network does not carry them. But outside of that 1 Saturday game (and the 2 10/7 games) almost all will be available in HD. So while the inclusion of the Canadian Networks in HD would be great, at least, for most games, we are still getting a HD feed for the Canadian game.
     
  8. Oct 6, 2010 #788 of 2914
    Peter305

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    The problem is that while yes there may be an HD feed of a game, it won't be the Canadian team's broadcast. I know for some that doesn't matter, but I don't want to watch a Washington feed of a Leafs game just so I can see it in HD. Also when Canadian teams play each other, most of the time there isn't an option for an HD feed.

    The HD feeds exist, and we are all paying top dollar for second rate service.
     
  9. Oct 6, 2010 #789 of 2914
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    The question is - how many people won't subscribe because of a lack of Canadian HD feeds? My hunch is not very many. I don't think equipment is the problem - as documented that's not the expensive piece. It's the rights fee that both the NHL and DirecTV don't want to pick up. The NHL covers the rights fee for SD broadcasts but not for HD - and since it's in the United States a highly doubt they lose too many subscribers to the package as a whole.
     
  10. Oct 6, 2010 #790 of 2914
    crimpshrine

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    This is very true, but don' forget about those dreaded Vs. exclusive nights, when most of the time a US team in playing a Canadian team and they are the only one's broadcasting (since US providers can't). Also remember that even though most teams are showing all of their games in HD, some teams aren't actually broadcasting all of their games, so there might be lack of coverage there?

    Overall, I'm very happy though. Coming from Dish Network and them being hit or miss with HD games and no MSG HD, I can't complain about the HD coverage I'll be getting this year! :D
     
  11. Oct 6, 2010 #791 of 2914
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    So the choice for hockey fans is, do I make a statement by dropping my package which probably won't make any difference at all, or do I buy the package get to watch hockey knowing that it isn't a first class product. If you are a hockey fan the choice is pretty clear, most of us will buy the package. The NHL and DirecTV know this and so they aren't motivated to do anything to serve fans better.
     
  12. Oct 6, 2010 #792 of 2914
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    I'm going to keep an eye on NHL Gamecenter online and what they have as far as Canadian HD feeds and the quality. I'll keep CI on D* for this season but if no improvement is made with Canadian HD feeds, I'll reevaluate next summer. As the schedule looks now, I'll see ZERO HD feeds of my favorite team this season from D*.
     
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    That's the key point with cable and In Demand, its inconsistent. Even within the same company, such as Time Warner, it varies. In the Buffalo market, NHL CI has the HD channel. In the Dallas market, no NHL CI HD channel. So if In Demand adds more HD feeds, what markets will actually receive them?
     
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    RACJ2

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    I wish everyone could get what they want, but it doesn't always happen. I just have to ask. If DIRECTV has second rate service when it comes to the NHL coverage, what US provider are you comparing them to? They have the best US NHL coverage, bar none.
     
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    Peter305

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    From what I can gather DirecTV may have the best NHLCI package but the package itself isn't as good as similar packages for baseball or basketball. I suppose some will argue I'm comparing apples and oranges, but my point is that the NHL is second class when it comes to their programming package because they seem happy to allow large sections of their fan base to not see their teams play in HD.
     
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    Last year on his XM show Bettman said that the most important show for them is "On the Fly." He said people want a highlight show and don't want to wait until 1AM.

    Poor judgment in my opinion.
     
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    Can't argue with you there. It's all because the NHL doesn't have near the fan base of all the other sports. Unfortunately, if the revenue stream isn't there, its hard to invest more into Canadian feeds. And there is no real competition to turn to, unless you want to try the Canadian dish route.

    Its just like any other business decision that any company makes. Personally, I can remember when there was no NHL CI and that was tough living down in Texas. Especially prior to the Stars arrival.
     
  18. Oct 6, 2010 #798 of 2914
    ohpuckhead

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    I've had Directv since 1996 and they almost always end up changing some channels on game day. There has been a bit of improvement in the past two years. Certainly over a week out is not something to rely on.
     
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    ohpuckhead

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    Agreed. I get frustrated some nights as well. But 30 years ago my city had no cable yet and the NHL had that worthless syndicated network. It is all relative. In the 14 years I've had Directv the NHL package has consistently improved with the exception of the MSG and Versus mess last year. The first Saturday actually make some sense. The NHL Network showing the Blackhawks game means that the hockey fans who don't have NHLCI (they do exist) but have the NHL Network will be able to see the Stanley Cup Champs raise their banner, and after the wild fan support last year it should make good TV. That's good for the game.
     
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