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No D* for me

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by agreer, Aug 4, 2007.

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  1. Dazed & Confused

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    agreer....you have received some pretty good help in this thread, but you seem to be making things harder than they need to be. There are a limited number of pertinent facts here:

    1. Do you have a balcony, which appears to be a yes.
    2. Is the dish less than one meter, and we know that to be true.
    3. What direction does your balcony face? You seem to be intentionally vague on that issue.

    If the answer to the balcony question has an S as the first or only letter then you have a reasonable chance on the LOS.

    Call D* and tell them you have a balcony that faces S(X), and the installer would not do the install because he thought the dish was more than a meter wide. Ask them to please send someone capable of this type of install. That just doesn't seem that difficult to me, but maybe I am oversimplifying the situation.:D
     
  2. litzdog911

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    You can perform your own site survey using the moon's position to help you "see" where the various satellites are located. See the link in my signature below. In early October the sun can be used the same way.
     
  3. Koz

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    Have you asked your landlord if you can put the dish on the roof? There's about a dozen dishes on my apartment roof. About 2 dozen on my fiance's roof. Of course, we have flat roofs in LA, so they're easy to hide, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
     
  4. tgater

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    That happened to me when I moved here almost two years ago. I had someone I know that installs for DISH to check line of site for me before I bought this house, he told me it was fine. I had an issue with DISH not allowing me to connect 6 sets so I sent them packing. I did the moving thing with D* and the idiot didn't even come to the front door. I see him in the front of my house with a clip board and a view finder, he said that there was LOS for 110 only. I went wild thinking how can that be I knew that was a line of BS. He leaves and I go back to the old house (we hadn't moved out yet) took down the phase III brought it here laid it on son's bed, and with the window closed hit 119 with a signal strength of 99. I got on the phone with D* told them what happened had to wait three weeks to get another installer back out to install and received a $200 instant credit and $20 off for 1 year. The moral never schedule an install for first thing Saturday.
     
  5. agreer

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    OK, I just went out for a couple of hours to clear my head and reached the folloeing conlusion:

    F**K 'EM

    Any company that makes me jump through this many hoops and put up with this kind of hassle just to get the privilege of paying them handsomely for TV isn't really worth my time. The way I see it, they should be jumping through hoops to get my business as I planed to subscribe to many sports pacs and the biggest non-premium base pack with HD and DVR...I would kinda understand this if I just wantedthe Family pack, but if they arent willing to help accomadate someone who is willing to write a large check. then screw them.

    Much as I hated comcast and their lack of quality service and bad cable boxes, It just took one phone call and a 30 minute visit and it all worked as advertised.

    Looks like I will go Mythtv+OTA +$100(or more) in my pocket each month.

    BTW I hab 5 or so coworkers who were considering the NFL ST thing but wanted to see how mine went first...and those guys do get the premium channels and beond sports packs, also buy UFC and poxing PPVs...
     
  6. HDTVsportsfan

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    Hope it works out for you.
     
  7. litzdog911

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    Glad we could be of help.
     
  8. agreer

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    Thanks for everything guys, i appreciate it
     
  9. Skip Towne

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    Actually, the NFL is an oligopoly - just a few owners.
     
  10. rcoleman111

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    It's interesting that agreer never did answer this question, even though it has been asked repeatedly. It sounds like his apartment doesn't face the south.
     
  11. bobnielsen

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    I hope nobody expects Directv to move the satellites to the north. :rolleyes:
     
  12. CCarncross

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    So do you have southern exposure from your balcony or not? If you dont have clear LOS to the southwest, you will not have much luck at gtting D* installed, UNLESS you can get permission from your landlord to put the dish on the roof of the building, as long as it can achieve SW LOS.
     
  13. rirwin1983

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    Dont let some dickheads at a d* install contractyor sour ur experience. Try and find a local retailer/dealer and see what they will/can do. I've seen some wild installs, so there has got to be a way.
     
  14. nbajam

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    Hey guys,

    I'm in a similar situation, although I haven't had anyone come out yet.

    I live in an apartment and would need a 5-LNB dish. I have a balcony that faces east, however if the dish is installed facing the south, I THINK I have a clear LOS to the south.

    My question was more about the earlier comment that the "5-LNB dish can't be mounted" What does this mean exactly? The landlord has told me this so far Re: Dish placement:

    "No drilling into building is allowed under any circumstances, cable must be run through the opening around the air conditioning unit. No permanent affixing to the building is allowed. Satellite dishes must be installed using removable clamps or straps and not installed using screws or nails that are drilled into the wood deck material or any other building material. On lower apartments, dishes can be affixed to a 4x4 inserted into the ground in the bark mulch or gravel area or onto the building in the above manner" (I have a lower apartment)

    Now I've seen others with dishes installed attached to the balcony with a similar orientation, so I don't think LOS will be an issue, but will installation of a 5-LNB dish be a problem given these guidelines?

    Thanks.
     
  15. bobnielsen

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    A 4X4 should work. If they will allow a 2 in. pipe (mounted in the ground in cement), that would be better. You will need line-of-sight slightly to the west of due south, however for 110 and 119.
     
  16. CCarncross

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    bob, he mentioned a balcony, so I think a pole mount in the ground is probably out of the question as it sounds more like he is above the ground floor.
     
  17. nbajam

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    Would the pole in the concrete be considered "permanent"? So a pole mount would be ok for the 5 LNB Dish? I guess I must've misinterpreted what was stated earlier in the thread.

    The southwesterly sats are the ones i was concerned about receiving, but I guess getting an installer out here is prolly the best way to figure that out....since trying to follow the moon hasn't worked

    Thanks for the help.
     
  18. RobertE

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    The easiest way for apt dwellers, by far, to check for LOS is to look at your neighbors. Look at those that live next to you on your side of the building? Do any of them have D* or E* installed? If yes, then your all set. If no, look at the other side of the building. Do they have it? If yes, your SOL unless your landlord allows you to put it on the roof.
     
  19. TigersFanJJ

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    I don't get paid unless I complete the job and have the customer sign all the paperwork. I had a job just yesterday that I spent an hour and a half on when a thunderstorm came up, so I had to reschedule for the customer. If the hsp gives that job to another tech when it comes back up, I'll never see a dime for the work I did.
     
  20. Michael D'Angelo

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    Thanks for the correction. I wonder if some companies are different. This was about 4 years ago he said some thing about it but I don't remember exactly what he said.
     
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