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No Optical Digital Sound output on H24

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mitchflorida, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. Carl Spock

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    I'm still leery of transducers. That's where things mess up. In analog, that's speakers, phono cartridges and microphones, all devices that turn mechanical into electrical energy, or visa versa. An optical connection is a transducer. Those aren't electrons transmitting information down that cable anymore, but photons. A coaxial connection has no transducers.
     
  2. mdavej

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    You sure got that right. The last time I got optical cables from monoprice they were $1.56 each which is nearly double the price of their $0.84 coax counterparts. But I have to say a bundle of several optical cables takes up a lot less space behind my rack than the same number of coax cables. So it's worth the price premium to me.
     
  3. Mike Bertelson

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    Yeah, but the transport protocols, SP/DIF, are identical. They’re both digital so D/A conversion is independent of connection.

    Besides, I don’t think the transmitter is technically a transducer in the way a microphone or speaker is. Additionally, fiber is long tested in use...and pretty danged accurate for that matter. If forty years of commercial/consumer use isn’t good enough track record then I don’t know what is. :grin:

    Mike
     
  4. mitchflorida

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    If you only paid $1.56 for your optical cable, they obviously aren't gold-plated like mine are. I prefer gold-plated cables all the way.
     
  5. Carl Spock

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    Just try telling that to my friend, Reddy Kilowatt. He'd bitch-slap you down, even though he's only got three fingers and a thumb.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Mike Bertelson

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    I’d rather get to the point where I don’t have any of those cables. If it were just HDMI then I could eliminate five optical cables from my setup.

    A/V receivers that can use HDMI for audio are starting to come down in price, but when I got my Yamaha two years ago it wasn’t really an option without spending big bucks.

    Mike
     
  7. RunnerFL

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    monoprice.com is your friend. I think I paid like $2.50 each optical cable a couple of years ago and only like $3 something per HDMI.
     
  8. RunnerFL

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    And a SP/DIF cable is less fragile than an optical cable.
     
  9. Mike Bertelson

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    I recently bought ten 6' HDMI cables from Amazon for $31.70 delivered. ;)

    Mike
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    That's exactly what I did when I bought my Onkyo a year or so ago. Nothing but HDMI from my receivers to the Onkyo and one HDMI out to the TV.
     
  11. mitchflorida

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    I get free 2-day shipping with Amazon . . . :)

    BTW, the verdict is in. I changed the optical cable from HDTV-AVR to H24-AVR instead. And the sound is noticably better. I listen to SonicTap classical, and the channel now sounds like it went up in quality from 64Kbps to 96Kbps.

    Does SonicTap stream at a certain speed?
     
  12. Mike Bertelson

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    Classical is tough too. It’s much less forgiving then other genres, and if the source isn’t good it sounds like crapola. When I rip classical I use wma lossless or it doesn’t sound quite like the original.

    I really don’t know how Sonic Tap is delivered. Good question. :)

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  13. Mike Bertelson

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    You send him on over and we'll talk. :D

    I think my dad had a lighter with that guy on it. :)

    Mike
     
  14. RunnerFL

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    I do too but most of the time monoprice still has better prices.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    With a little background in lasers and fiber optics, these aren't transducers, but merely LEDs. ;)
     
  16. matt

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    BAHAHA :hurah::hurah::hurah:
     
  17. Eskimo

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    There's really no advantage to gold-plating any part of an *optical* cable, now is there... :p
     
  18. joed32

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    Some of us have an insane number of DVRs and DVD players, etc and we use a ton of audio hookups. I for one run HDMI to the AV receiver and HDMI to the TV but I don't need surround sound for talk shows or news so I use optical or coax from receiver to AV. So if I want surround sound I turn on the AV unit, if I don't then I just hear the TV speakers.
     
  19. mitchflorida

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    For those of you who are music Audiophiles, I would recommend streaming the Pandora Music Service instead of SonicTap. I just got it hooked up today (main reason that I bought the Samsung Blu-Ray) and the music quality is amazing! Pandora streams at 192 kbps, in contrast to SonicTap which sounds around 64-96 kbps, and tends to sound muddy at times.

    Pandora is a real treat for the ears, and you can easily program your favorite channels yourself.

    (I should add that some people have to pay $36/year for the premium service. . I get it free with my mobile phone company, Sprint)
     
  20. RunnerFL

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    I'm one of those that have an insane amount of gear in one room so I can relate. I would never however watch tv with audio thru the tv speakers. yuck...
     

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