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No Year in the info panel

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by skitzel, Mar 6, 2006.

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  1. Wolffpack

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    You could off a Dtivo. Just a program to write. TivoWebPlus can do searches of this into so anyone could pull it off. Wanna spend time coding TCL?

    I've played with the source and it can get REAL FUN. If you know what I mean. ;)
     
  2. Earl Bonovich

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    Ahh... no thank you... TCL is not my cup of tea....
    Too bad there wasn't an XML source for it...
     
  3. ad301

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    You are correct. The OP asked about year data. It's there in the data stream. I have a Hughes e86 which displays it just fine, and the third and fourth posts in this thread mentioned two other receivers which also display it.

    I don't know why people have to try to excuse the r15's shortcomings by blaming it on "bad guide data".
     
  4. Earl Bonovich

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    It is not "excusing" the R15 for it shortcomings...

    There is no doubt that there is "occasionally" bad data..

    (Aka... take a look at Oprah, every episode is marked as First run and Repeat, aka why the TiVos rely on First Run Date)

    If the Guide was perfect, mint, and everything was the way it should be it would be a "non-factor".

    There are pieces in there, say my news for example. There is no distinct Episode number for my 10pm news, the description is identical.. Even the Beloved TiVo doesn't get it right (I have to record it as repeats, as it applies the 28day rule)

    So... no, most of the "issues" with recordings are not related to the Guide Data. But they are a contributing factor, and why the code it self may be far more complex then "we" think it is. (Hence why I would love to have access to the guide stream, just for kicks...)
     
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    No, the sad thing is that there are folks of which this is their job, and they are not as interested.
     
  8. Clint Lamor

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    No whats even more sad is there are a LOT of people thoughout application dev that aren't interested in making a good product. Just getting it out the door and on to the next. OH WELL they keep people like me employed I guess. :)
     
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    There must be alot of people fired in the R15 development team. Maybe that's why it's taking so long to fix it? They have to start all over with a new team each week.:lol: :lol:
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    Now Now.....

    They are working on it... (I know it for a fact)....

    It isn't like they are working in .NET or other places... they are working on code that has to run on a custom piece of hardware... If you have ever tried it, it isn't the easiest thing in the world to debug....

    PLUS...... You can only simulate so much in testing. (you could run the scheduler through a rapid clock to see if everything goes correctly, but if there is another part of the unit that is causing the problem... that simulation wouldn't show that)... only a real live system test would, which would take days to test....

    I know everyone thinks they are just sitting there, doing nothing... That couldn't be farther from the truth.

    I plan to send an message later today, to my contact to see if I can get an update on when the next release may be.
     
  11. Earl Bonovich

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    That is not exclusive to any-one company.... I have that problem here at my job with other developers... They simply want to just get it done (based on inputs and outputs), they have no passion or care on what they write. (not saying that is how the DTV employees are, but it is a general notion that if based on our staff here... covers 60-70% of developers out there)... but that is a discussion for another day... another thread.
     
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    From my perspective I don't think "everyone thinks they are sitting there, doing nothing".
    I think that most of us saw the potential for this box, were then very disappointed, and are now VERY eager to see it at least get to first base.
    A double or triple would be nice but no more walks. (Hey, it's spring, baseball metaphor's allowed):D
     
  13. cabanaboy1977

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    I know they are. I'm glad they are listening to us. I just couldn't help myself.
     
  14. Wolffpack

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    I'd guess they're working in C++. All you need is the proper cross-compiler for your development platforms and production platforms. Folks writing code for a Palm for instance can develop and test in a Windows environment then compile for the Palm and do "production" testing.

    This should be no different than embedded systems such as a cell phone, GPS unit or a digital camera.
     
  15. skitzel

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    Well I for one really like a good smattering of info when i hit "more info".

    Good thread, I'm definately getting an idea of this process. I will continue to make "constructive criticizm" here. For what it's worth. :D
     
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