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NYC cracks down on Soda

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. Sep 13, 2012 #1 of 149
    fluffybear

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    From Fox News:

     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    *sigh*

    Not much more to say than that...

    *sigh*
     
  3. Sep 13, 2012 #3 of 149
    Drucifer

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    As long as it doesn't effect beer, who cares.
     
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    fluffybear

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    Mrs. Fluffybear asked what effect will this have on 'refills'. If they are included then the only thing this caused was my having to get out of my chair more to refill my drink or buying two or three drinks at one.
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    People like me who don't drink alcohol would care...

    but since you brought it up... IF the argument here was about high-calorie non-diet drinks... isn't beer high-calorie?
     
  6. Sep 13, 2012 #6 of 149
    Davenlr

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    Charge 10 cents extra for the >16oz drinks you sell, and put the money in the kitty to pay the fine when the Bloomberg police show up.
     
  7. Sep 13, 2012 #7 of 149
    spartanstew

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    Since it's for non-diet sodas, and most fast food places are now self serve, how would this work?

    You can buy a 44 oz drink at McD's and tell them you'll put diet in it and then get regular Coke?

    What about 7-11 and others? Fill your 44 oz cup with Dr. Pepper and then tell them at the counter it's Diet Coke?
     
  8. Sep 14, 2012 #8 of 149
    Drucifer

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    There's a 44oz size?
     
  9. Sep 14, 2012 #9 of 149
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    It could be an end to the days of self-serve. It could also lead to a wave a new dispensing devices which would require cups to have a scannable code that indicates the size of the cup and which only allows you to dispense the proper type of soda (44 oz only works with diet sodas).

    No reason to lie at 7-11, according to the new policy supermarkets and convenience stores are exempt.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2012 #10 of 149
    AntAltMike

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    Shirley, you jest.

    The refillable 7-Eleven Double Gulp was downsized from 64 ounce to 56 ounce, but I still have half a dozen of the 64 ounce cups. I had more, but someone cleaning out a cabinet I had half of them stored in thought they were junk and heaved them last year. Here is a side-by-side comparison of the original, 64 ounce Double Gulp cup alongside its 56 ounce successor.

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    7-Eleven signage near the self-service soda fountains says that their branded containers that hold 53 to 100 ounces refill as "large", which is $1.49 in my market but varies somewhat nationally, and containers UNDER 52 ounces refill as smalls, which are $.99 here but $.89 to $1.19 elsewhere.

    There is a discontinued series of big, insulated refillable mugs called X-treme Gulp that hold exactly 52 ounces. Many of these X-treme Gulp cups promote NASCAR.

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    On 7-Eleven's website, I found the image of one but the picture caption said, "for display only" and it wouldn't let me add it to my "cart".

    I live near a 7-Eleven regional office, and so I stopped in there last week but was told that they had no way of checking their inventory to see if any store in their region still had any for sale, and that the ones I saw on sale recently must have just been old inventory that someone came across in a store room and got rid of.

    The gap in the posted refill size specifications gives the individual stores wiggleroom as far as deciding to classify 52 ounce X-treme Gulp mugs as small refills or large. Here in Maryland and in Washington, DC , all of the dozen or so 7-Elevens I visit refill them as smalls, and if they scan the barcode on the mugs, it is read as a small, but once I get about 30 miles or so into northern Virginia, those stores price them as large.

    I've only refilled at those northern Virginia stores four times, and I haven't yet asked any of their cashiers to delete a manually entered "large" charge and to scan the bar code so we can see if those stores actually have a policy of classifying 52 ounce X-treme Gulp refills as large or if the cashiers just concluded it was a large refill because of the exterior size of these mugs which, if hollowed out, would actually hold over 100 ounces, as this tutorial explains.

    http://www.supersoda.com/detail.php?id=00000000077
     
  11. Sep 14, 2012 #11 of 149
    fluffybear

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    I don't drink alcohol either. However, the thing beer has going for it is the fact it has less sodium and less carbs than regular soda. As a matter of fact, you would only be able to drink 3 ounces of soda to match the number of carbs which are in a can beer.
     
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    I have so many real problems to deal with every day, as I am sure most of us do, I just can't seem to get worked up about this either way. If it becomes a national trend, so what? If the idea dies, so what?
     
  13. Sep 14, 2012 #13 of 149
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    Amen! Here in NC, Regal and Cinemark theaters sell huge sodas at a huge price. I pass on them. Same for large popcorn (around $7), unless I feel like getting a refill and taking it home for the family to munch on. :grin:
     
  14. Sep 14, 2012 #14 of 149
    Drucifer

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    Blame it on the Fast Food Industry. For the past two and half generations, they been loading up their foods with sodium and sweets to cover the poor quality of their food stuffs.

    It was the same for Frozen TV Dinners, but most of them have been replaced by healthy name products that are ever so slightly lower in sodium and sugars. But at least there, the industry is going in the right direction. But there was no big fuss made by customers. Probably because they were embarrass to admit they ate frozen TV diners instead of fresh foods in the first place.

    But I expect the regulating of the Fast Food Industry will be similar to the Smoking Industry. Where yelling and screaming with a dash of hysteria was the norm when regulations where enacted. They'll use the same chant that they have the right to do anything to their body, no matter what impact it has on the society they live in.
     
  15. Sep 14, 2012 #15 of 149
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    Everything I'd read, refills are not affected. It's fairly stupid, Diet drinks aren't exactly healthy, and you could argue a 32oz glass of fresh squeezed orange juice isn't healthy either.
     
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    what stops someone from buying a diet coke or pepsi that is more than 16 ounces and filling the cup up with regular code or pepsi?

    Most fast food places I go to have self serve fountain machines.
     
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    Especially with the Freestyle machines. I'd say the biggest size for all drinks is 16oz, free refills (same visit).
     
  18. Sep 14, 2012 #18 of 149
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    Still haven't figured that one out myself but if I had to guess it would be that the days of self-serve sodas within NYC are going to be a thing of the past or 16 ounce will be the biggest size sold PERIOD..
     
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    Laxguy

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    For those interested, there was a lengthy thread on this when it was in the proposal stage. It deteriorated into a lot of bickering about in loco parentis.
     
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    Stewart Vernon

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    Yeah... I pointed that out before too... about orange juice and other fruit drinks. Natural sugar in some fruit drinks are as high as in some sodas... so that whole sugar=bad argument goes out the window.
     

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