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Official DBSTalk ViP622 DVR Review

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Mike Johnson, Feb 23, 2006.

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  1. Jan 1, 2007 #101 of 152
    jerrynorton

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    I've had my ViP622 since April. There was a few things the installer didn't set up correctly, but I'm pretty good at following instruction manuals. Since then it has performed flawlessly. Well, you have to unplug it from the wall once in a great while when it gets stuck and just sits there. The software upgrades it installs at night have made it more fault resistant. I think mine is the B revision too. An early mainboard, but like I said, I am very happy with its performance.

    It runs real hot, especially in the summer. About 128 degrees Fahrenheit on average. Which brings me to my question. Has anyone tried swapping out their hard drive for one with more capacity? I've never opened mine up, but I was able to ascertain that it uses a SATA hard drive. Donno whether it's SATA I or SATA II. It's either 250 Gb or 320 Gb. I guess the thing to do is try it. Someone said the ViP622 will download the operating system onto a blank drive from the satellite. I'm not usually a pioneer on things like this as long as it's working correctly. Keep waiting for that hard drive to burn up so I'll have just cause, but I would like more than 30 hours HD recording time.

    Sorry if this has been addressed on another thread. The search terms are so generic, "upgrade vip622 hard drive", "increase hard drive capacity vip622", etc., that I have a difficult time returning useful search results. But I'm a noob on this forum.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Jan 1, 2007 #102 of 152
    Ron Barry

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    I am not aware of anyone that has swapped out the drive, but doing so would void the warranty I believe. If I recall there is a temper seal on it.

    Based on info from Dish, External USB archival support is coming... Hopefully we will see it soon and that will allow one to transfer shows to an external drive and thus providing more storage.
     
  3. Jan 1, 2007 #103 of 152
    BobMurdoch

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    Wait for CES in Vegas this month. New goodies usually follow a few months thereafter.

    Also, I highly recommend getting the extended warranty (a monthly surcharge on your monthly bill). PVRs are prone to hardware failure, and E* will replace the receiver AND pay the freight both ways if you have it.
     
  4. Jan 1, 2007 #104 of 152
    jerrynorton

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    Hmm. Wouldn't they do that anyway if they want me to keep paying my bill (beyond the 18 month contract period)? Maybe not pay the freight, but I think they would definitely have to fix my box if it breaks. Don't they?

    Thanks for the info guys. I was thinking maybe I'd just buy a 750 Gb Seagate and try it out. I know it voids the warranty. If it didn't work, I could just use it in my computer. If it did work, I'd use the drive out of the ViP622 in my computer. In any event I'd have more storage capacity somewhere.

    Let me know if you hear of anyone who has tried it and what the results were.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2007 #105 of 152
    Jim5506

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    Warranty on leased units is 1 year, after that repairs are your responsibility, but Dish has a Dish Home protection plan that you can subscribe to it if your unit fails, get it repaired for reduced cost, then drop coverage.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2007 #106 of 152
    acidscan

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    Thank you for the review, great work !
     
  7. Rob Glasser

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    Thank you acidscan and Welcome to DBSTalk. I hope this site is able to help you out.
     
  8. asher

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    Somebody asked this question way back at the beginning of the thread and was never answered - does anybody know if the receiver requires HDCP support in the display to work over HDMI? I tried asking Dish, and they basically don't know.

    The context of the question - I'm trying to get my 622 to work with my non-HDCP TV (which is actually a DVI input), and I get a black screen. Seems likely that it's just a bad HDMI port like everybody else's, but I also got the same symptom with a brand-new upscaling DVD player which was documented to require HDCP support. I've tried the TV with a DVI laptop, so I know that the input works.

    Thanks,
    Aaron
     
  9. WynsWrld98

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    Anyone have info of when the ViP622-1 (500 GB hard drive) version announced at CES will be available? When the new DISH promotions start February 1 is that with the ViP622-1 or the ViP622? I'm considering switching to DISH Network is why I'm asking...
     
  10. santafeguy

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    Ok, I am planning on switching to DISH from Comcrap. I am trying to get my head around the re-mapping, since I've never seen it before. :grin: I completely understand the concept. Just so I am clear though: I can program the Vip622 to say that the HD NBC channel is 4 not 6326 (as is the case here in New Mexico)?

    So, if I were to set a timer it would record it on 4 as an HD? Again, pardon my naivete` just cus I am used to comcast where the SD channel is the local number...in this case 4, and the HD is a separate channel. So, If I want to record a show that is in HD I have to make sure I have specified the HD channel not the standard number. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Ron Barry

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    Actually... You don't program it.. Not sure if you will be using OTA... I will cover both.

    What you do is scan your OTA channels in. They have a frequency to channel mapping that dish uses. There also is your HD locals that are supported in some areas (6326 sounds like one).

    Here is what the 622 can do.

    HD Priority setting

    Maps SD locals to 0X-00 slot.
    Maps HD locals to 0X-01.. 0X-02 etc.

    Example:
    SoCal NBC

    04-00 : Dish HD NBC
    04-01: NBC OTA
    04-02: NBC sub channel #1

    SD mapping
    04-00 :SD NBC
    04-01: OTBA NBC
    04-02: NBC sub channel #1

    See more in section 5.3 of the review.
    http://www.dbstalk.com/622review/DBSTalkViP622Review.pdf

    If not... check out the 942 review. It has EPG pictures that should help.

    Hope this makes sense.
     
  12. santafeguy

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  13. Ron Barry

    Ron Barry 622 Tips & Trick Keeper

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    Ohh... forgot to :welcome_s you. : )

    Yes, the 622 has a requirement to have a phone line connected or get a additional fee. I would do a search on the forum for further discussions on this topic. I know there are threads dealing with this subject and I don't recall if some people have been able to get around this issue.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2007 #114 of 152
    c4racer

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    Quick question - the -622 will support both TV1 and TV2 watching different recorded programs at the same time, correct?

    I have an install scheduled for tomorrow.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2007 #115 of 152
    Ron Barry

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    Yes.. when in dual mode.
     
  16. JCN

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    I know it has been done with the SA8300 cable box. I believe on that hard drive they had a dye or something like that, that showed if it has been touched. It can be done if you just take time and be careful. It was discussed on the AVS forum.
     
  17. RonS

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    Does anyone have any info on this request? I am thinking about buying another 622 and would prefer the higher capacity if it will be available soon.

    Thanks
     
  18. Idahonuke

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    Hullo,

    I'm a newbie, so I apollogize if this is allready covered, but I could not find it.

    I have direct v with an HR20. I hate it. HATE it! And I don't use that term lightly. I was thinking about switching to the netwerk with a vip622. My main concern with the HR20, is it doesn't record what I want it to, and it records things I don't subscribe to. Basically I can't make it work. It's a minor complaint. I am probably asking too much.

    So, my question is this. Will the vip622 try to record programs on channels that are not subscribed? My HR20 does this 24/7/365.
     
  19. tomcrown1

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    ??? My vip622 only records what I program it to record. If i do not subscribe to a service like the Playboy ??? i cannot record it.
     
  20. Rob Glasser

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    Welcome to DBSTalk Idahonuke. To answer your question briefly, no it will not. It records only what you set timers up for. However, if you setup a DishPASS recording and the search criteria is pretty vague you may end up with more than your bargained for. Other than that every once in a while you get a small SD Dish Network recording about features or billing information, but they are pretty rare, at least for me. They only usually last a couple minutes and take up almost no hard drive space.
     
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