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Official Dish DVR-510 Information from Dish Network

Discussion in 'Standard Definition Receiver Support Forum' started by Scott Greczkowski, Jul 31, 2003.

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  1. Jacob S

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    DirecTv only charges $4.99 for their PTV service and if they would give existing subs an offer on the 510 then they probably would not allow those that got a deal on the 501 or 508 to get that deal and they would get stuck into having to pay the fee when they want to upgrade.

    The 921 WILL have these DVR charges according to what was written to Scott in an email.
     
  2. Lee L

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    I agree, unless Charlie woke up one night after a dream of world domination through PVR fees, they had to have been considering this edven if it was not set in stone at the time of the last tech chat when they announced that the 921 will be $999.00.

    Or maybe E* is run on a whim, it sure seems like they are rudderless with no real long term plan lately.
     
  3. DarrellP

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    I dropped to the AT50 in anticipation of the HD Package coming out. Right now I pay $41/month with AT50/Locals/extra receiver and warranty. Add $10-$20 for the HD Package, another $5 for an extra receiver AND THE GOD DAMNED $9.95 DVR FEE and I am now paying as much as the AE package. This totally stinks, no matter how much money I am paying these B*A*T*S*T*U*R*D's on a monthly basis, they will still charge me $9.95 because I don't have the AE package.

    Dish, up yours!
     
  4. Chris Freeland

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    Remember this $299 charge for the 510 is full-retail and the announced $999 price for the coming 921 is full-retail. If you are a new sub the 510 is Free with a two-year commitment and 508 will still be available to current subs at the special $199 and sometimes $149 price without DVR fee's until the end of Augest, I suspect starting September 1 when the 508 deal for current subs ends, their will be a highly discounted deal for current subs to upgrade to the 510 with a reduced price with DVR fee for a one or two year commitment with cc-auto pay, the same I suspect will apply for the 921 too. If E* does this then the big mistake will still be the per-unit charge rather then per-account, I just hope E* recognizes this BIG blunder and rectifies this soon. Then if E* will just improve their DVR software, only time will tell ;) .
     
  5. Jacob S

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    Thats why I say that they are going to get some people to pay one way or another. What will be said "If you can afford the HD Television you can afford the 921. If you can afford the 921 you can afford the SuperDish. If you can afford the SuperDish you can afford the DVR Fee......." When will it end? One can only afford so much and thats it.
     
  6. tampa8

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    There is no question, it is the structuring of the fees, not the fee itself. I think it would be acceptable to charge a fee to Top 50 and Top 100 subscribers. But you cannot charge the fee for each DVR. I can think of several exceptions that can be made to get what they want in the end.

    1. Top 150 plus any other programming/AEP no charge

    2. Top 50 with two or more movie packages and HD programming - no charge (meant for those with a 921)

    3. No charge on the 921 with Top 100, and two other progamming choices, one of which is the HD package.

    These are just examples, but you get the point. I purposely have it skewed towards no fees if you purchase a 921 @ the $999 price.
     
  7. DarrellP

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    I refuse to increase my programming with the exception of the HD Package. I don't care if they give away the 921 for $500 I will not get suckered into paying $10/month forever, it is ridiculous.

    Does anyone really believe Dish will sell the 921 for anything less than $999? Look how long it took them to loosen up on the 501 after it's release.

    It's easy for you guys with bottomless wallets to pay for the AE pack and then sit back and say "What's the BFD? I'm not getting charged" Well, I don't want any more programming than what I have except for the HD Package. The 921 is meant for HD, why should I have to buy every damn channel they offer just to watch 4 or 5 channels? It sucks.
     
  8. Chris Freeland

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    As I said in an earlier post, I believe that $999 for the 921 will be the suggested retail price, however I believe their will be special promotions for both new subs and for upgrades for current subs at a reduced price with a 1 or 2 year contract. Remember when the SuperDish and the ATHD package do finally come out, E* will want to get as many ATHD subs as possible, what better way to do this but to offer a Special to commit you for a year or two and make you think you are getting a bargain because you payed several hundred dollars less then the suggested retail price of $999?
     
  9. Soycrema

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    Charlie, Dishnetwork, if you're monitoring this threat I'mm telling you right now: CHARGE FOR DVR, PVR......whatever and YOU WILL LOOSE ME AS A CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS!!!! I HAD PLANS TO BUY THE 921 BUT TO HELL WITH THAT, LOOKS LIKE DIRECT TV IS COMING MY WAY!! :mad:
     
  10. boba

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    I switched to Directv Sunday, my $149 PVR508 arrived today(UPS delivered it to the wrong address). I activated it, dropped my other 4 receivers downgraded to AT-50 only. I am keeping at least 1 receiver active I've got 12 Club Dish certificates coming in monthly so it is the only way I can collect my credits. It's the only way I can figure to get even with Charlie, keep using up the credits instead of giving them to him by cancelling outright.
     
  11. Jacob S

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    See, Dish is screwing up on other people as well delivering to wrong addresses. Even if you call in and tell them over and over they still get it wrong.

    Dish is trying to get more money out of you one way or another, they want you there by air or by sea, by car or by plane, they want you at a certain pricepoint and determined on throwing so many things at you until you get there. If everyone was a higher priority customer then who would get priority then? Those that used to pay $50 or $60 per month customer would be not be considered a higher priority anymore of any greater importance.
     
  12. Bob Haller

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    sent this to sky this morning. I hope others will do something similiar. A bit of media attention may get them to come to their senses.

    Send your mail to!!! editor@skyreport.com.



    You have a lot of avid readers out here. Perhaps theres a story for you here.

    Dish is going to charge for new DVRs. a monthly fee per receiver.

    This is fine for new subs who essentially get their box for free. But by doing this long term existing subs get screwed. We will be forced to pay full retail PLUS the fee Plus in all honesty dishes PVRs arent as stable as Directs, lack features like name based recordings, and have ongoing problems with software upgrades causing glitches.

    Honestly they release half designed buggy software and have ther subscribers beta test the units.

    The 721 their top of the line box was promised to provide internet access which was never made available. This box is now out of production and people are disappointed.

    Perhaps you could look into this. Please see these discussions as to why were upset. Apparently this is falling on deaf ears at diish. They think everything is OK.

    DBSTalk.COM / SatelliteTalk.COM - Official Dish DVR-510 Information from Dish DBSTalk.COM / SatelliteTalk.COM - DVR 510 announced and monthly fee3! DBSForums Discussion Forums: DISH Network announces DVR fees

    Thanks much for your time Bob Haller

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  13. Inaba

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    Well, I do think these fees are ridiculous. One of the primary reasons I went with Dish instead of DTV was because of the no-PVR fee.

    While I understand I will be grandfathered in with my 721, when it comes time to upgrade, I may return to cable, as my bill will be about the same. Right now, with the Top 50, my bill is about $30/mo w/ my extra receiver (which I will probably cancle next year, so my price will drop to $25/mo) -- that's what I'm willing to pay. If I'm totally forced by the market to pay more, such as with cable, or DTV - I will go with cable.

    Currently, the lack of features and bugginess of the software on the 721 are acceptable (in a damned if you do, damned if you don't sort of way) because of the low cost of my subscription. If the sub price raises to that of DTV or Cable, there's no point in putting up with crappy software... might as well roll with the big boys and pony up the big $$ for stable/feature rich equipment if you're going to have to pay anyway.

    I'm all for supporting the underdog and tolerating less than perfect equipment/service... but when the underdog starts thinking they are a big dog (and charging accordingly) and they don't offer what the big dogs do... the underdog can piss up a lamp post.
     
  14. I WAS waiting for the 921. Now dish has made my discission easier. I will be switching to direct tv as soon as my contract is up ( i bought a 508, 6 mo ago with a contract).. I've been a dish network customer since 1996!!! Yes, I as one of the people that bought in early. So ends my 7yrs.. I talked so many friends and people into getting dish, no more.. Recently my parents where on cable and thinking of getting a TIVO, but I talked them into a 508 cause the 508 doesn't involve any monthly fees. I know the 508 will continue not to have a fee in the near future, but come on, its just a matter of time. Nothing is sacred with Dish..

    One peeved customer, soon to be former..
     
  15. Chris Freeland

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    So, switch when and if ( which I doubt it will ever happen)
    E* starts charging the DVR fee on the 508, if you switch to the D*DVRw/TIVO you will pay this fee, sure you will get a few more features and posibly more stable software, but you will be paying a DVR FEE, while if you stay with your 508 it will continue to be FREE for the foreseeable future. People here are way over reacting to something that will not effect most of us directly and has already ben pointed out many times by me and some others here, but many do not seam to be comprehending, this deal means new subs will get their DVR510 hardware for FREE and their will be a highly discounted new deal for us current subs to upgrade come September, but I guess it is easier for some here to be close minded and stomp around mad over this then to relax and see how things shake out over the next month or two. :shrug:
     
  16. Mark Holtz

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    Except that I will have a two-tuner DVR for the price that Dish charges for a single-tuner DVR.
     
  17. Chris Freeland

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    Can a new sub get a D*DVR for FREE? I don't think so. We do not yet know what deals may be available for the 522, which will not only have 2-tuners but will also have 2-outputs too, so one can have two tv's accessing this DVR, accessing it's hard-drive and tuners independently without a 2nd receiver mirror fee, does D* have any DVR's in the pipeline that can do this? Not that I know of. All I am saying is that their is no need for all of us getting all upset when we do not yet know all of the facts yet.
     
  18. SParker

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    I am going to wait to see if this fee comes to fruition. If it does i am sure Direct will have some killer offers for Dish Network customers.
     
  19. Jacob S

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    The 522 may be the solution to the extra charges in that the $4.99 you would save on the additional outlet fee would make up for the DVR fee and then not having to buy two DVR's would ultimately make it cheaper than purchasing two of them seperately plus having a larger hard drive, a UHF remote that turns 200 feet away, and especially if they get the Linux software onto that receiver that they have on the 721, it may not be so bad on that receiver after all. As long as they do not charge that much extra for this receiver than the 510 it may be the way to go. If it would cost $399 then that would be an average of about $200 per tuner vs. having to pay $300 for each receiver like you have to pay now.
     
  20. 508 junkie

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    With the intro of the 510 how long are 508's going to be around and are they still 299.00. Dont want cc auto pay or a 12 month comitt so i never took up the 149.00 deal.
     
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