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Official: HR34 pricing as of 2/9/2012

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 9, 2012.

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  1. Apr 23, 2012 #941 of 1281
    HoTat2

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    Well if DIRECTV installs MRV/DECA it will likely go something like this then:

    SWiM LNB ("green label") ----> four way "green label" splitter ---> one coax output to the HR34; another coax run from splitter to the HR22;

    And another possible run from splitter to a wired CCK or maybe a 2-way "green label" splitter on the run to the HR34 to supply the CCK (fourth output of the splitter is terminated).

    In either case though the ethernet output of the CCK connects to your router for home network/internet connectivity for both receivers. If ethernet access to the router is close to the HR34 then you don't really need the CCK as the HR34 may serve as it. But it is DIRECTV's policy to install it anyhow.

    The HR34 and HR22 would then be able to "see" each other for MRV over the coax network by transitioning via DECA signaling through the SWiM splitter in this case and/or use the CCK for the home network/internet connection if necessary.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2012 #942 of 1281
    wco81

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    Thanks, so I would need extra runs from the splitter. Fortunately, I have 2 to the bedroom and 3 to the living room, since they were serving dual tuner DVRs.
     
  3. Apr 23, 2012 #943 of 1281
    xov

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    Thank you to all who have posted here.
    Here's my report. Had HR20 and HR24 without SWM. Called Retention (couldn't get any discount from CSR) and got:
    Added HR34
    Whole-Home DVR
    Installation (SWM & CCK)
    Net cost after credits: $249
    (plus I got free Starz for 6 months and Showtime for a year)

    Not as good a deal as some have gotten, but it's okay with me -- I've never subscribed to any premium channels or services, so I'm not as 'valued' as some!

    Got it all installed two days ago and I couldn't be happier.
     
  4. Apr 23, 2012 #944 of 1281
    goduke

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    Likely. I still can cancel at any time, subject to the pro-rated cancellation penalty, which would be less than what they would get if they keep me at $175 per month for the next 24 months. That is why they have some incentive to give me a discount even though I am still under contract.

    Note, my discount is not as good as others I have seen on here, but I was not prepared to go to the brink of cancellation.

    I had the HR-34 installed this afternoon. The tech upgraded my SWM 8 to a SWM 16.

    It works great. The HR-34 has the HD GUI. It can see and will play the program lists of two other HD DVR's through whole-home and the other DVR's could see and play from the HR-34 list (but I turned it off - this is the parent's DVR).
     
  5. Apr 25, 2012 #945 of 1281
    ChuckM128

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    Called today and stated I wanted to move to Dish to get the Hopper capability; a very nice rep named Patty worked with me and offered the HR-34 for $211.31 with a 12-month $10 credit; I took the deal; figured I couldn't do any better, having been a customer only 21 months! This was my 4th time calling, so don't give up!
     
  6. Apr 28, 2012 #946 of 1281
    eazy-e

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    My HR-250 died.

    I called for HR34. Got to retention. Offered me $250 off the box. I asked for discount on install or CCK and would not budge. I already have $10 x 24 off my bill prior due to negotiations on Sunday Ticket last year for HD as well as Total choice off $10x24. So could not offer me more. Plus refer a friend or $10x10. So I thought I did ok. D* paid me to watch Sunday Ticket with Internet streaming last year.

    I went with CCK as it was $100 more.

    My new setup:
    1 x HR34
    1 x HR24-100
    1 x R15-100 (used at my parents house). d* are requiring a swap for compatible DVR ( no idea of model)
    1 x HR-250 (dead) being replaced with new HD DVR (no idea of model)

    I really only need 2 HD DVRs. So I may cancel the other 2 when D* installer shows up.

    Any chance I can talk installer To upgrade to SWM for no charge? I have a Ethernet power line network and a wirless network so I think CCK is unnecessary but they force SWM or CCK.... What should I with the install?
     
  7. Apr 28, 2012 #947 of 1281
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    It looks like you're going to end up with 11 tuners, so they will install a SWiM16 automatically...and free. Check your account online to see what is listed.
     
  8. Apr 28, 2012 #948 of 1281
    eazy-e

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    Below is what shows up right now.

    Item Description Price Quantity Total
    Home Media Center 1 $6.00 1 $6.00
    DIRECTV® DVR - MRV Swap Free 1 Free
    DIRECTV® HD-DVR - MRV Swap Free 1 Free
    DIRECTV Home Media Center HD DVR $399.00 1 $399.00
    MRV Install Free 1 Free
    DIRECTV® Home Media Center Client Installation (TV) $49.00 1 $49.00
    Additional TV Free 1 Free
    Additional TV Free 1 Free
    Cinema Connection Kit $99.00 1 $99.00
    Additional TV Free 1 Free
    DIRECTV® Home Media Center Client Installation (TV) Free 1 Free
    VCONWifiDeca Free 1 Free
    Additional Receiver Condition Free 1 Free
    Home Networking Offer Condition Free 1 Free
    HMC Receiver Condition ($250.00) 1 ($250.00)
    Delivery and Handling Fee Free
    Professional Installation $49.00
    Tax $20.76
    Order Total $366.76
     
  9. Apr 28, 2012 #949 of 1281
    dpeters11

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    The R15 likely will be replaced with an R16. SWM compatible but not whole home. The HR34 requires SWM, so no chance of not getting that.
     
  10. Apr 28, 2012 #950 of 1281
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    Woops, forgot to reply to this!

    You should have a swim 16 installed. The hr2xs will each have a deca attached to them, the HR34 has deca "built in" so to speak. Then all they need to do is plug in the Ethernet cable into the HR34. They will likely want to use a cck instead, because installers don't seem to know they can do that. (it's the only unit that can be done with). That's it. Thats all your system needs. That's also the easiest and cleanest way to set it up. And they shouldn't chaser you for any of it, it should be included with your order. If its not, let us know, and we will tell you how you can set it up cheaply to get Internet and Whole Home Service to that one hr that will be far from a Ethernet connection. M(by the way, if they don't set you up with deca everywhere, they sold place a band stop filter on the HR34 so it doesn't send a deca signal out to other units which could harm them eventually and cause other issues.
     
  11. Apr 28, 2012 #951 of 1281
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    Cck is an adapter and is how they get Internet access into your DIRECTV deca cloud. They won't use your Ethernet network or your powerline adapters to connect your receivers together (nor should they).

    Swim is necessary no matter what with an HR34, it's the only way it can hook up. They charge for cck to but it's really a charge to hook you up with an approved method for Whole Home Service and connect you to the Internet, which they do with every Whole Home Service setup anymore. Your HR34 can actually act as a cck adapter without any extra parts.
     
  12. Apr 28, 2012 #952 of 1281
    eazy-e

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    So do you think I can cancel the CCK? I sure would like to do so. I would like MRV but not a show stopper. I have an Apple Airport router and a hard wired Netgear power line Ethernet adapter so I can get Directv cinema to my HR 24...
     
  13. Apr 28, 2012 #953 of 1281
    dpeters11

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    The HD boxes can do MRV. if they show up with an R22 instead of a 16, it can too but I'd be surprised if that's what they have. Technically, you can plus the HR34 into an Internet connection and get the same functionality as a CCK.

    Just to be clear, MRV and the CCK are separate. MRV does not require a CCK.
     
  14. Apr 28, 2012 #954 of 1281
    eazy-e

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    So I guess I need some Clarification. D* forces either the CCK or SWM setup. Either$99 or $199 respectively. Can I avoid both of those charges when I get the HR34? What functionality do I "lose" if CCK is not installed? Would the SWM still be installed and I avoid a$199 charge which is not on my current order? Sorry I wasn't in the market for Ny of this stuff until last night so I'm still getting caught up with the latest lingo. I really wanted the TiVo but read such bad reviews and could not resist the HR34's 5 tuner ability.
     
  15. Apr 28, 2012 #955 of 1281
    dpeters11

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    You can't avoid SWM with the HR34. There is only one coax connector on the back, not 5. SWM is single wire multiswitch, normal DVRs used to require two lines coming off the dish, now only one with SWM. The CCK is solely for Internet access, installers are suppose to have a minimum number of installs connected to either Internet or phone line. Internet is used for on demand, TV Apps, Pandora (not on HR34 yet), YouTube and ordering PPV via remote.
     
  16. Apr 28, 2012 #956 of 1281
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    Received a $250 discount on HR34 and $20/Month credit for 12 months.

    Bryan
     
  17. Apr 29, 2012 #957 of 1281
    aeffen

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    The tech arrived this morning. It took four hours but the install was flawless. As others have said installed a 16 port multiswitch. Had to run additional lines into attic and one additional coax drop. Each receiver except the hr34 has some kind of deca adapter on the box and one receiver has a small additional adapter that is directly wired to my router. Each receiver can see the playlists on all the others and play them, the pip on the hr34 is great and to top it all I didn't have to reprogram my harmony to run the hr34. First time in a decade that the installer/tech actually knew what he was doing and took the time to do it right. We are very pleased!
     
  18. Apr 29, 2012 #958 of 1281
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    Hey, decided to give it a try for a discounted HR34 today and talked to retention about it a few hours earlier.

    Very nice lady I spoke with and to my surprise I got one for only $99.00 plus free installation (two year recommit necessary of course). :D

    According to her, being a subscriber since Sep. of '95 with perfect pay history over all that time is what really pushed it through. Unfortunately though, she said there was a glitch in the computer ordering system and couldn't process the order at the moment. Carefully noted the account and gave me her employee ID number and told me to call retention back in confirm the order in at least 24 hours at a special PIN coded access phone number. Sure hope this is not one of those situations where they try to renege on the deal when I try to call back.

    Going to have to do some rearrangement on the SWiM-16 to clear the required tuner space though.

    An HR22-100, HR24-500, and a R22-100 on SWiM output 1 8-way splitter.
    An HR21-200 and HR34 on SWiM output 2 8-way splitter.
    Though I will ask the installer if he/she has a couple of 4-way SWiM splitters to swap out for these wasteful 8-ways.

    One HR22-100 will be retired.

    13 tuners used in all ...
     
  19. Apr 29, 2012 #959 of 1281
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    If all your runs are to one spot I'd want one four way splitter to connect four hrs to off swim output 1 and then the hr34 direct line to swim out 2. That should give you the least loss of signal I believe. Check with VOS to be sure.
     
  20. Apr 29, 2012 #960 of 1281
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    I'd consider that, but I have two additional cable runs I need to accommodate. Since the HR34 is nowhere near my router I have a coax run from one of the SWiM splitters to a wired CCK.

    And, though unsupported of course, I have another coax from a SWiM splitter output to a PC for internet/home network access through the DECA cloud via a "white" DECA brick on the PC.

    Thus seven lines to the SWiM-16 in all, so two 1 x 4 SWiM splitters necessary.
     
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