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Officially Price Increase for Feb 1 2010

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by dolmar, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. Jan 10, 2010 #61 of 398
    CABill

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    There were several posts related toTV2 fee & credit prior to the rumor you quoted that didn't say "receiver" but only talked about
    (# Duos on account - # Duos not connected - 1)
    If that is -1 (not a single Duo connected), you are charged the fee
    If it is zero (like 1st Duo doesn't have to be connected, but the others are), no fee charged.
    If positive, 6 month credits.

    I've no idea if that was simplifying it to a formula, or something DISH would distribute to explain "simplification". ;)

    In any event, it seemed (my interpretation at least) that it wouldn't add a fee for every Duo not connected, but rather a single fee for not having at least "all but one" connected. I've no idea what the use of "receivers connected" might mean for non-Duos but ASSUME the quote only applies to Duos.
     
  2. Jan 10, 2010 #62 of 398
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    Oh brother. Only Dish could come up with such a goofy mess. Because this month I upgraded from Silver to Gold and was promised the credits for the HBO-Showtime 3 free months, I can't wait to try to decipher my next couple of bills.:rolleyes:
     
  3. Jan 10, 2010 #63 of 398
    Stewart Vernon

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    Since these rumored price increases seem to change by the hour... I really would encourage not getting worked up unless and until Dish actually announces something official.

    Until I see a higher Dish bill or changes announced, a lot of people could be getting mad over something that doesn't materialize.

    I also am amused at "reliable sources" who contradict each other and change every other day. In my book, a "reliable" source would say the same thing more than once at least.
     
  4. Jan 11, 2010 #64 of 398
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    My bill just went up. I had my owned 622 deactivated a while back and decided to reactivate it some time in December. Now I know there is prorating going on so the bill looks like a real mess but for some strange reason they added two $5.00 charges for 'TV2 Receiver Connection'.

    The only thing I can think of is that when I was moving the 622 onto the shelf above the TV I knocked the plug out on the network/broadband switch. I fixed this a couple of days later but now am wondering if you have the receivers set up for broadband and it is down for any reason, perhaps this messes up the software and it fails to try the standard phone line out when it wants to call home.

    I'm po'ed to say the least as now I have to waste my time on the phone trying to convince someone that they should not charge me that extra $10.
     
  5. Jan 11, 2010 #65 of 398
    phrelin

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    In the past, I've had my network down for over a day and not been charged. I've even gotten the "you aren't connected to God" warning message. It shouldn't be a problem for a short duration.
     
  6. Jan 11, 2010 #66 of 398
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    The charge shouldn't hit till the bill generates.
     
  7. Jan 12, 2010 #67 of 398
    Grandude

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    My thinking is that they ran a check when I reactivated the owned 622. If that isn't the case, then maybe they thought they could slip by a couple of extra charges on my messed up bill.

    I really do wonder if the phone line gets preempted once you connect via broadband and the internet. I recall that some people reported some problems with connecting via phone when they also had the broadband but I sure has heck can't remember the details. (must be the mad cow disease):sure:

    Maybe someone with both connections can disconnect the broadband for a while to see what happens.:D

    BTW, I've been very scrupulous about having the phone connection active on all receiver after having a phone call from the evil lady who said I had to give her all those numbers from all receiver 'or else'.
     
  8. Jan 12, 2010 #68 of 398
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    I'm so tired of Dish Network finding new ways to get money out of their customers. Their annual $3 price increases are bad enough but then they started charging fees for every DVR and tuner that is too much.

    Dish should consider one reason consumers choose Dish Network over Directv is for the dual receivers that save money each month rather than having to pay for a seperate receiver for each room.

    At this rate I think I might go back to basic cable for $25 a month and then I can have it in as many rooms as I want and can use a DVD recorder to record shows. These prices are getting out of control.
     
  9. Jan 12, 2010 #69 of 398
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    Just wait until your cable company eliminates analog cable and all TVs will either have a builtin QAM digital tuner OR you need a digital cable tuner.
     
  10. Jan 13, 2010 #70 of 398
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    OK I'm confused as to what my new bill will look like and a large part of it has to do with no mention of my programming – HD Absolute with locals.
    Today I have one 622 receiver (a gem by the way; it’s been flawless since March 06’) and the following programming fees:
    $34.99 dishHD Absolute w/locals
    $ 5.98 DVR Service fee
    $ 7.00 Leased Receiver fee
    $47.97 Total

    Am I out of my mind to be thinking my bill could be going down $6.98 per month???
     
  11. Jan 13, 2010 #71 of 398
    CABill

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    Pretty hard to say what will happen when Absolute isn't mentioned in the rumor, and nothing has been said by DISH yet.

    What is official, since 1-Feb-09 (maybe even 2008??), is that there shouldn't be a Leased receiver fee when you only have one receiver on your account (the way I read your post). People that got their receiver via an existing customer upgrade (DISH'n It Up) were charged the $6 leased fee even on the 1st (or only) receiver for a couple years. That increased to $7 on a previous 1-Feb change. It would certainly we worth your time to phone a CSR and ask about it. You said the 622 works well so you might not want to mess with things, BUT, you could do a DISH'n It Up upgrade from the 622 to a 722/722k/612 and that alone would eliminate the $7 leased receiver fee. You have a decent chance that could happen automatically with the change that is coming (and you don't have that long to wait).

    You should be able to reduce your bill by $7 - and that could have happened a year ago.

    EDIT - forgot to mention that a DIU to get a new receiver to avoid the Leased Rec fee would come with a new 2 year commit.
     
  12. Jan 13, 2010 #72 of 398
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    There's no mentions of Family Pack increases either, right?

    Currently I have the FP, 1 722, locals and DVR fee for a total of $31.96/month.

    Is that HD Duo Receiver really gonna jack it up another $17/month?
     
  13. Jan 13, 2010 #73 of 398
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    Taco, the way I read the OP is that the first, and/or most advanced, receiver does not carry an extra charge. However, I'm far from an expert on the topic.

    CABill, funny you should say that about the extra $7 fee. Back in 06', thanks to reading it on this forum, I was made aware that sometimes, although back then not always, the $7 lease fee was waived on the first receiver. I was determined to get the same deal if others had gotten it since I was an informed consumer. I successfully argued my way out of the fee with a 3rd tier manager upon initial set up. Over the next 3 years, the billing department and I waged a war over the $7 fee. It would pop up on my bill, and due to paperless billing I often wouldn’t find it till months after. Whenever I did see it I would call, yell my way up to a 3rd tier manager, and not only get it removed but get credited for however many months it was “incorrectly” billed. Yes, I’m that anal about it and the principle drove me crazy. Finally, in 2009 I actaully gave up and let the $7 fee win out over me – since I figured after they kept putting it back on like 5 or 6 times it must be right.

    Now, thanks to your post I’m going to be on the phone today with tier 3 management asking for it to be removed again and an $84 credit ASAP. I’ll let you know how it goes!
    No matter how it turns out, I appreciate you mentioned it.
     
  14. Jan 13, 2010 #74 of 398
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    I did the same. I'm not sure who, it could have been CABill for all I know, but someone pointed out to me if I did the receiver upgrade and the 24month commitment the leased receiver fee would be waived. That was at least a year ago, I got a ViP722 and haven't paid the fee since.
     
  15. Jan 14, 2010 #75 of 398
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    Phone line discount is definitely gone but you still get 2nd tv free in any package. new pricing is right. they give you all the good then at same time get the bad. still i cant count how many deals ive lost because of 5th and 6th tv hookup fee. glad itll b free now.
     
  16. Jan 14, 2010 #76 of 398
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    The grossly inflated receiver fees were confirmed by Dish Network in the retailer chat today.

    Time to bend over.
     
  17. Jan 14, 2010 #77 of 398
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    As I have stated in the past. They have to make up the hundreds of millions they have to pay TIVO. Yes the money has been setting in a account collecting interest. But now it is gettting time to actually pay the money to TIVO. This is the end result. Either that or they are trying to match the cable companies fees for receivers.:nono2::nono2::nono2:
     
  18. Jan 14, 2010 #78 of 398
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    i've seen what the additional receiver are I would'nt recomend a six room setup. I had one of my sales reps watch the retailer chat. he checked a quote for a customer he was working on what a 722, 222, 222 was going to cost. just the fees on the 2-222's is going to be 28 dollars more. I'm sure we wont be doing this set up. I thought Directv was shooting themselfs in the foot with there little rate hike. Thank god we are a duo plattform dealer.
     
  19. Jan 14, 2010 #79 of 398
    CABill

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    Two 222s will have two $14 receiver fees, but they won't be $28 MORE. Unless you have some trick to not be paying anything for them today. Instead of one $7 fee for a 222, each independent output has a $7 fee so the pair of 222s would go up $14 from today's prices (assumes connected to a phone line or Internet). Rather than doing 222s, it would cost the same to do 4 211s as additional receivers to give independent HD to 5 rooms plus SD from the 722. Then connect an external drive to the 2 211s.

    Really had to stretch to come up with anything rosy, but it you should only have a $14 difference with 2 additional 222s and it would be the same monthly if all 4 of those rooms were independend DVRs by adding external drives to 4 211s.
     
  20. Jan 14, 2010 #80 of 398
    Stewart Vernon

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    If these rates roll out as described... then it technically is more accurately described as a moderate increase + elimination of an existing credit.

    Consider...

    A receiver that today costs $7 per month lease fee + $5 additional tuner fee... costs $14 per month as a unified fee.

    That's just a $2 increase, which is kinda like what Dish usually does on their yearly package prices... so I'd say this is a virtual "wash" compared to normally expected increases.

    HOWEVER... if they truly are going to can that $5 credit for connecting a phone/internet line... then that's the real per-receiver killer... and that's where it will really add up fast.

    Of course even the $2 price-raise adds up on multiple receivers.

    Consider... the first receiver is still free... so if you have a 1-receiver account, you will not see the typical increase like you normally would.

    IF you have 2 receivers, then you'll see a $7 increase beyond what you'd have paid this time last year assuming you had been connected to internet/phone. IF you were paying that additional tuner fee then your bill only goes up $2.

    Still some wiggle room for multiple room accounts if enough people complain when their bills go up.
     

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