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Discussion in 'The OT' started by wilbur_the_goose, May 2, 2010.
Hows about, 125.6 to 154.7 Kg per barrel, 1000 Kg per tonne, so about 7 to 8 barrels per "tonne".
From the AP via Yahoo:
Hmmm. Isn't ideal but not necessarily a problem.
Orwell would be proud.
So would Kafka.
Pick your choice of news sources, but apparently "Isn't ideal" turned out not only to be a problem but a failure. Guess I'll be redoing the graphic next week.
Based on BPs live feed, it does seem pretty clear that it's a complete failure. So now we move to pieces of tire and golf balls?
From the San Francisco Chronicle:
Well, apparently we can do that.
Well, it now looks like August before the leak is plugged. While you can take your pick of articles, this one from the AP via Yahoo speculates on the upcoming problems related to hurricanes and gives the current estimate:
So I've added the "best case scenario" to the graphic moving Deepwater Horizon into the top ten accidental oil spills (the Sea Star would be pushed off the list).
What's disturbing about the graphic is how it has changed since I posted the original above.:nono2:
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Looks like we're screwed until the relief wells are drilled - AUGUST.
This may end up being our country's greatest disaster - ever.
We need Ross Perot. He always has (well, had) simple solutions for eveything.
I find it amazing that nobody in the world knows how to stop the oil.
This could be the end of BP in the long run...
That may be a bit dramatic, but I'll agree with what a lot of people are thinking... I'm just flabbergasted that this is still going on.
Because it has been kept so much in our minds as a cautionary reminder, we all remembered Ixtoc I. Right?
Well, Ixtoc I was difficult to plug in 1979-80. From Wikipedia:
So collectively, the oil companies and the world's governments set up a costly continuing safety program....
Oh wait! Ixtoc was a disaster caused by an irresponsible, greedy socialist government. And it occurred during the years when "they" started selling us on the "1800-1950 American West model of resource management" as the way things ought to be.
And so that's the way it is....
The big problem here is that a company drilled for oil without any kind of reliable disaster recovery plan.
The next biggest problem is that no one who matters will learn anything that will change procedures... and undoubtedly something like this will happen again.
In BP's bucket of profits this just a drop. Pardon the pun.
But I will say I am very relieved this is not an American Corporation at this point in the game. The trend these days would be to file a premature bankruptcy in anticipation of the legal suits and reemerge as UK Oil>
Are these some kind of prescient words:
Nibblin' on sponge cake
Watchin' the sun bake
All of those tourists covered with oil...
- lyrics from Margaritaville, by Jimmy Buffett, 1977.
As the blobs make their way to the Florida Coast, the Tampa Tribune offered an article headlined Jimmy Buffett pressing ahead with Pensacola Beach hotel:
Actually, most news reports are not optimistic, reporting hotel reservation cancellations. And Buffett is opening his Margaritaville Beach Hotel July 1 on a site where Hurricane Ivan wiped out a Holiday Inn in 2004.:eek2:
But hey, the song ends with this moral lesson:
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame
But I know it's my own damn fault
Yes and some people claim that there's a woman to blame
And I know it's my own damn fault
Just add another note of interest today, from a Washington Post article headlined BP's Deepwater oil spill hurts British pensioners, investors:
I'll betcha a buck that BP declares bankruptcy, in large part to avoid paying claims.
Then they'd have to go through bankruptcy court and, quite frankly, any judge with two neurons to rub together could see how much they're making (they still paid out billions in dividends, just a few million in cleanup costs and other claims so far) and reject any bankruptcy protection.
BP knows they make too much money to declare bankruptcy. The *shareholders* are being hammered, though.
I just heard this morning that BP is now estimating that it will be capturing about 22,000 to 23,000 barrels a day from this makeshift system, but that the leakage will continue be substantial. If we conclude from that that it has been spewing well over 25,000 barrels a day from the beginning, then the cumulative spill will surely rival Ixtoc 1, even with this amelioration.
Sure will, Mike.
My worst fear is what will happen when a tropical storm hits the area. I could see a large area becoming a dead zone, devoid of all life, for decades, if not centuries.
The USA really needs to wean ourselves off of oil. This would be the time to do a bipartisan effort to demand auto mileage standards of 50 MPG by 2020. If we can put a man on the moon, we can certainly develop a fuel-efficient car, no?