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Over 30 different 1080p Movies now on DIRECTV - Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. dreadlk

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    I installed BUDS for years, I started out with C-Band, so i ended up owning all the latest stuff, then I went to FTA, later tried Directv and Dishnet, I ditched Dishnetwork but kept Directv. The Picture from FTA HD using a PC blew me away until I saw my first BluRay.

    If you have the $$ you will really love the Panasonic DMP-BD55K. I personaly use a Sony PS3 but a friend of mine has a BD55K and man is the picture crisper and better.

    Because I did high end Home Theater installs for years, a side benfit is knowing some good customers who are up there in age, love high end stuff and have money, so I do get to play with the good stuff when I want. Only downside is I usualy end up spending 2 hours fixing and adjusting their equipment ;) Im sure most of you guys have the same problem when you go to friends and relatives houses :)



     
  2. V'ger

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    Since we are talking about 24 fps movies, with 1080i, each of the 24 frames are split into two interlaced fields, these fields get repeated in a 3:2 ratio to get to 60 fields per second or effectively 30 frames per seconds.

    The mpeg4 compression removes all duplicate frames and fields. so it boils back to 24 frames per second, or 48 fields per second. Other than a little bit of overhead, the data rate is the same because interlaced fields are half the resolution of full frames.

    The DVR will repeat fields or frames as necessary to reproduce the correct data stream to the TV.
     
  3. dreadlk

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    Now now Doug your getting into semantics :D
    Directv is trying to make the comparison in Quality, they are just doing it in a Legaly safe way.;)

     
  4. RAD

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    DirecTV is $5.99, what ou pay for a rental depends on where you get it.

    The big advantage DirecTV has is that it's an impulse thing, don't need to go get something or order it online and wait for it to be mailed.
     
  5. dcowboy7

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    i know they dont for ppvs but do they show these 1080p movies in OAR ?

    do they ever do 7.1 sound ?
     
  6. dreadlk

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    Just to Enlighten some confused people and Bore others :) Hope I get this right, it's been awhile

    Pixels per Frame
    480p = 338,000 pixels / frame
    720p = 922,000 pixels / frame
    1080i = 1,037,000 pixels / frame
    1080p = 2,074,000 pixels / frame

    So you can see 1080P has twice as many pixels per frame as 1080i ….BUT in terms of data being sent

    1080i (30F) = 1,037,000 Pixels X 30 Frames = 31,110,000 Pixels Per Second

    1080i (60F) = 1,037,000 Pixels X 60 Frames = 62,220,000 Pixels Per Second

    1080P (24F) = 2,074,000 Pixel/Frame X 24 Frames = 49,776,000 Pixels Per Second

    So that gives you an idea of how much data is being sent in terms of Resolution but that’s only a small part of the Picture (No Pun).

    (I think Interlacing VS Progressive has been explained to death so I will Skip that.)

    The bigger part is how well defined each pixel is. Remember each pixel has Color and Brightness, these have to be defined in the Data stream for each Pixel, so just like a PC’s Video output, if you set it at 8 Bit Color you get a Pallet of 256 Color choices.

    Color Depth
    8 Bit = 256 Distinct Colors
    16 Bits = 65,536 Distinct Colors
    32 Bit = More than 4.2 billion Distinct Colors

    So each Pixel can have its color defined in a Ratio/Mixture of ( Red : Green : Blue and Brightness) and the color depth defines how accurate the Color and Brightness will be. So you can see that an 8 bit color depth generates a huge amount of data if each pixel is defined by an 8 bit number and it gets to the utter mind boggling numbers when you go 32 bit color.

    Of course compression etc can remove redundant data and cut these numbers down by several factors but the picture quality and depth is still based on What is Fed into the compression scheme (Crap In = Crap Out)

    I am not sure what kind of color depth BluRay uses but its significantly higher than what DirecTV uses. A BluRay Movie at 1080P uses about 40 Gigabytes of Data for a 2 hour movie, on the other hand I have noticed that Directv has pushed about 14 Hours of 1080P movies onto 100Gb of space on my Hard Drive so that’s roughly about 14GB for a 2 hour movie. When you compare 40GB VS 14GB you can get a good idea of how much more picture is packed into a BluRay 1080P VS Directv 1080P

    Someone else who knows a bit more of the details will hopefully step in and correct any errors I made or give people a little more detail on things like the exact Color Depth etc that BluRay uses VS Directv.
     
  7. BattleZone

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    My Honda Civic is claimed to have 125 hp when it was new. It will top out at roughly 115 MPH. Do you think if I put a 500 hp engine in my Civic, I would be able to reach 460 MPH?
     
  8. BattleZone

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    Generally, the movies are cropped to 16:9 (but this could change at any time), and they will never do 7.1 or any of the new HD audio formats as Dolby Digital 5.1 is the max the chipsets in the receivers can handle.
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    Maybe the question should be: "would you drive [want to be in] it at 230 MPH?" ;)
     
  10. BattleZone

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    This number varies tremendously. Hundreds of Blu-Ray titles have been mastered on single-layer, 25 GB Blu-Ray discs, many using only MPEG2 compression! Others use an MPEG4 flavor (AVC or VC1) and may be 35 GB or more on a dual-layer 50 GB disc. Of course, that title may also have several lossless audio tracks plus several more lossy tracks, tons of bonus materials, etc. in addition to the movie.

    DirecTV saves a lot of space by using a single DD5.1 audio track, leaving most of the bandwidth for video, so it's harder to do a 1:1 comparison to Blu-Ray.

    Bottom line: DirecTV's DoD is probably the highest-quality downloadable HD content currently available (Dish's is probably its equal, or close enough, as their process is the same). It is nearly as good as Blu-Ray, and in some cases will be virtually indistinguishable unless you have the ability to handle HD audio or if the movie is cropped vs a 2.35:1 OAR.

    While I don't think it replaces Blu-Ray by any means, it is certainly a nice compliment to Blu-Ray, for content that you would like to see but might not care enough to own. It may not be the "right" option for everyone, but options are always nice to have.
     
  11. BattleZone

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    Oh HELL NAW!
     
  12. dreadlk

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    Agree 100% it's probably the best Downloadable HD anywhere!
    But on a side by side comparison it's not really that close to a good BluRay disk, but then again nothing is really close to high end BluRay! Thats why every store uses BluRay to Demo there high end TV's.


     
  13. ejhuzy

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    I searched this thread and didn't quite find this question answered. Are the 1080p movies shown in OAR? If so, I may actually use this now and then. I have a projector and anamorphic lens and hate it when they don't show the movie in OAR.

    Thanks.
     
  14. DeanS

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    While I appreciate all of the foregoing discussions regarding the relative merits and picture quality of D* 1080p/24 and BD 1080p/24, I was really quite pleased at how "Madagascar" looked on my new Sony LCD set last Saturday evening. It was, in my eyes, a qualitatively superior picture over other 1080i PPV movies from D* I have watched and this was the first 1080p/24 movie I have seen on my new set. I have no plans to rush out and buy a BD player now, since we don't rent movies very often at all anyway.
     
  15. dcowboy7

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    Yea i asked & they are generally NOT in OAR which to me is a MAJOR drawback. I would say its idiotic but that would be an insult to the word idiotic.
     
  16. Rich

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    Not so much the cost as the 24 hour limit on the VOD. I hate to "have" to watch something. Too much like homework :lol:. At least with NetFlix, you get plenty of time to watch a movie. Hang the cost.

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  18. Rich

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    Oh yeah, I'm sure a lot of people will know more than you've posted. Seriously, that was one helluva post! The confusion begins to clear a bit.

    Rich
     
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    If you put wings on it. I did some more thinking about your post and got some input on it and I gotta admit, I'd like to try it. I'd also like to see if my Caddie will peg the needle on the speedometer (160mph). I did see a stock CTS hit 150 on a track on a show the other day. Maybe mine would peg out. I had a '60 T-Bird that had a speedometer that went to either 140 or 145. Thought that was a joke until I raced a Porsche one night on a deserted highway and I did peg the needle. I also got blown away by the Porsche. :lol:

    Rich
     
  20. Rich

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    You wouldn't be able to sit in a Civic with a 500hp motor, would you? How would that possibly fit?

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