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PAC-12 and DISH have deal

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DC_SnDvl, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. garn9173

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    It's not so much that DirecTV refuses to pick up CSN NW, it's the per subscriber price that Comcast is requesting that is keeping from DirecTV to pick up the channel and because of that, Blazer fans who want to watch their team has no choice but to subscribe to Comcast Cable.
     
  2. WebTraveler

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    This is what Directv wants you to believe.

    Since the two channels cover the same market area, you have the Blazers on CSN-NW and Mariners on Root. 162 games a year (less a few for national networks) is worth more than 82 games a year (less a few). Root brings Fox affiliation.

    So if CSN-NW is worth X, then Root is worth X + Y.

    It's simple.

    Directv should charge Comcast MORE for the right to show Root Sports and use its properties to get a better deal.

    Directv does not want CSN NW. Oregon is a market they do not care about.


     
  3. WebTraveler

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    Well, there is more to Pac 12 Network than just football. That's worth something. I agree it may not be top dollar, but there are fans out there for college baseball, soccer, etc.



     
  4. sigma1914

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    College baseball popularity is growing and it's nice to see. Pac12 has some good programs.

    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser...ing-2011-college-world-series-coverage_b88076
     
  5. sdk009

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    The clock is really ticking now for an agreement as the PAC-12 has confirmed its network will be carrying the Cal-USC game 9/22 at 3p (PT).
    Can D* really afford to upset viewers throughout the whole State of California?
     
  6. maartena

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    I'm with you. As I said before, I could care less for football and basketball. I just never got in to those sports. I like soccer, field hockey, ice hockey, and olympic type sports, including track and field, swimming, and some of the winter sports (although PAC12 doesn't compete in the latter).

    I also like UCLA Softball, which is one of the top softball teams of the country.

    Personally, I would love the 7 channels, NOT for anything football or basketball related, but specifically for the OTHER sports. Chances are slim of that happening though. At least, not at this time.
     
  7. kick4fun

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    So if you don't like football and thus Sunday Ticket is of no use to you, are you considering the DISH to get your Pac12 Networks?
     
  8. maartena

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    Nope. Those sports aren't important enough for me to to change providers.

    Especially since it looks like Dish is doing 1 Network with feeds for the TWO sports I don't care about, I might as well use a Time Warner Cable logon from a family member and watch the Field Hockey games I want to watch live online.
     
  9. iceturkee

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    i would like dtv to get pac 12 network soon. i'm hoping they will show more stanford womens basketball games!
     
  10. kick4fun

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    what would be the reason to stay with Direct? The reason I ask, I went to the local Radio Shack this morning and looked at the setup. Similar to Directv, but Dish has the hopper and now of course PAC12. Seems like it might even be a little cheaper, unless of course you're in a contract.
     
  11. nmetro

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    I just came from DISH to DirecTV. My first impressions:

    1. Picture and sound quality is better.
    2. Offerings a very similar between both.
    3. SD looks much better on DirecTV
    4. the new 5 Tuner HD DVR is incredible; it also has 5 HD tuners. Most DISH DVRs have two tuners, one SD and one HD.
    5. On Demand is faster and functions better on DirecTV.
    6. Positive experience with customer support.
    7. The installer knew exactly what they were doing, so much so, they fixed the mess left by DISH.

    The only negative I found was the Program Guide only goes out 90 minutes at a glance. As for cost, averages about $10 more.

    Why did I drop DISH?

    1. Their ongoing dispute with Disney, only EPSN and ESPN2 are in HD. None of the ESPN ALts are in HD.
    2. Their ongoing dispute with FOX (FOX related broadcast and cable networks could be dropped soon)
    3. Their ongoing dispute with AMC, IFC, We and Sundance.
    4. Their ongoing dispute with BTN (the final straw and why I moved)
    5. Their ongoing lawsuit with TiVo.

    While everybody may have different opinions, I think I did teh right move after 14 years with DISH.
     
  12. maartena

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    AMC, for one. I am a Mad Men fan. Furthermore: BeIN Sports is not in HD on Dish and I am really enjoying the soccer matches on that channel. Fox Sports West and Prime Ticket are only part time HD, and they show some good local sports in HD (e.g. Irvine, Fullerton, Layola). Additionally, many of the other RSN's show sports in HD that is not blacked out. I caught quite a few local hockey games from the North East last year which was fun :)

    Dish misses at least 1 (maybe more I haven't checked as of late) of the HBO channels in HD. My wife and I also adore the Smithsonian Channel which has some great docu's. I don't think Dish carries that channel although it may have changed.

    Main reason though: I am satisfied with DirecTV. I have never threatened to "switch if this/that channel isn't carried", and I probably never will. My setup works, the whole home DVR works really well, and I just don't want to go through the learning curves of a new system again. Don't want to take a day off either to get an installer over. I have all my recordings setup, including series that are not currently on, I often forget about.... until they show up on my DVR and I am reminded the season started. :D

    It just isn't worth the hassle, period.

    I have seen a few people in the PAC12 threads threaten to switch, but I am not sure if anyone actually has. Might be different now that Dish is on board, as 99% of DirecTV customers can get Dish as well.
     
  13. kick4fun

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    wow, enough said... I think I'll ride it out with Directv. I've been happy, just want the Pac12... Thank you for the response.
     
  14. kick4fun

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    Great point.. I think I mentioned this before, but we watched the Pac12 via the laptop and HDMI to TV.. Looked great.. I forgot about the other channels Dish has decided not to carry.. Considering I have 2 HD DVR's and 1 HD Receiver, I can still record 4 things at once. Thank you.. You've convinced me to stay. :)
     
  15. tonyd79

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    Maybe DirecTV doesn't want to play dirty (and borderline illegal).

    Do you have any real knowledge of the ridiculous fees CSN NW demands? The many smaller cable systems that had to drop the channel because of the increased cost? Many, many Trailblazer fans cannot get the games at all because Comcast is not in their area.

    DirecTV doesn't want it at the asking price, but to say they do not care about the market is over the top. They do not care for THAT CHANNEL at THAT PRICE. How does that translate into an entire market?
     
  16. woj027

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    I'm going with the theory that DirecTV will get the Pac-12 Networks "soon"

    But, that didn't stop me from calling DirecTV to voice my opinion to a CSR and letting them know I might switch to Comcast (which has almost as many HD channels as DirecTV up here - except premium movie + Pac12 and CSN-NW) and that conversation led to a reduction in Sunday Ticket price and some $$ off per month for a year. I can wait a bit longer now feeling I'm being compensated for my lack of Pac-12 Nat and Pac-12 Oregon State/Oregon.
     
  17. kick4fun

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    I called too and got the Redzone for $60 plus $120 off my bill. :)
    I think Dish getting PAC12 Network on Saturday and that now 5 Pac12 teams are ranked in the AP top 25, will help! crossing fingers that it happens by Thursday. I just picked that date because it sounded good.
     
  18. TBoneit

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    Show me the original Film negative, not that Digital crud. Digital is to easy to maipulate.


    Sure they could have been offering identical deals and whoever jumped on it first got Exclusives and the other, DirecTV, well the exclusives are now off of the table so the deal was identical when offered and now it isn't.

    You snooze you lose. That advertising may turn out to be big. No way to tell.
     
  19. woj027

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    I got a similar deal, I wasn't going to play CSR roulette to try for anything spectacular.

    I didn't know you could get Redzone separately, I thought it was part of the $300 package.
     
  20. HoTat2

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    Glad to hear of the positive experience;

    And you're right that YMMV on a number of the observations you made.

    But this ...

    Is very surprising to me, and TBH the first claim I can recall of this as DIRECTV SD quality ranks among the worst from virtually every post I read on the issue in this forum over the years.

    And this ...

    One HD and one SD tuner? :confused:
     
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