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PAC-12 and DISH have deal

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DC_SnDvl, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. donm

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    I'm not going to call any person out but there are a ton of Directv fanboy's. You can read this topic and many others and you really can't say anything bad about Directv only the Pac 12 network in this case for example. I'm not going to post anymore about this but there is no way there is only 3-4.
     
  2. kick4fun

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    You are not the only one.. I keep getting personal messages that agree with what you are saying.
     
  3. Satelliteracer

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    It's funny, in another thread here, http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=208684&page=3 , there are folks that want sports in separate tiers to keep costs down so they don't have to pay them.

    Then we have examples of customers who want the sports no matter what. Puts distributors in a tough spot. You either stand on principle and say the content should only be paid for by those that truly want it and not burden everyone (like those customers in the post above), or you take the programming and everyone's costs go up considerably even those that don't care about sports. That's the dilemma that every distributor faces, Directv is not alone even in this dispute (Fios, Uverse, Charter, etc).

    Either decision, one large group will be upset...the sports fan that wants it, or the non-sports fan that doesn't.
     
  4. donm

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    I'm sure the people complaining about the cost of sports channels want some channels in their package which most sports fans don't want but end up paying. Take the Viacom dispute. I could have cared less if Directv got those back and really didn't want to pay for them but I understand a company has to have all types of programming to keep people happy. So, I wasn't that upset with paying for those channels. I also wouldn't mind paying if they made a separate package of just Pac 12 Network and had all 7 channels or even 2 channels. I would pay almost anything in reason ex. $15 per month or whatever. I just know many others would be upset so I'm hoping if Directv does end up carry them they are like all the other providers.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    I think the interesting part about the pack 12 is they made sure they got choice of premium games on several nights but they also increased by a large amount the number of games that will be on the national channels. So there to have more games available to more people than ever before even without the pack 12 channels but certain big games will be missing because those will be exclusive to the Pac12. An interesting conundrum for the providers like DirecTV. I think when basketball season starts we might actually see more games missing than what we had before overall.
     
  6. Devo1237

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    I just wish they'd be consistent! Either put all the sports channels in the base packages and spread the cost, or put them all in one sports pack, and I'll subscribe to that. The annoying thing is I got BTN (which I rarely watch) in my low end Total Choice, I got bundesliga soccer with the sports pack (which I liked), but I still had to switch to Choice Ultimate to get the Tennis Channel. What the heck is going on? There's no consistency. Might as well put the Pac12 nets in the Korean Language pack. It'd be easier than adding a Time Warner box to my setup, which is currently the plan for Sept 22.
     
  7. TheRatPatrol

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    Like I said in the other thread, sports fans are willing to pay more if given the option. The problem is we don't have the option, and these sports networks need to start realizing that.
     
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    OT, given D*'s tough stance with the Pac 12 Networks, I wonder what's going to happen when the BTN's contract is up with D*. At the time, D*'s parent company was tied in with BTN and that made it easy to get national coverage, but I don't think that is the case anymore.
     
  9. WebTraveler

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    Put it ALL in tiers.

    You can have sports tiers. You can have news tiers. You can have a kids tier. You can have a legitimate channel tier.

    Then you can have the reality - things like MTV, VH!, True TV, etc. It's these channels that are a freaking waste of bandwidth and cost. I am sure there are customers that want to watch some dumb reality show about unemployed people. Let the folks that want this garbage pay for it.

    This works in Canada and it works quite fine.



     
  10. WebTraveler

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    Totally different situation. First, at the time of carriage Directv and Fox were the same company. Second, Fox owns 51% of the Big Ten Network and easily can throw it in bundles with all of its other channel properties.



     
  11. kick4fun

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    YES YES YES.. Finally something that makes sense... And let the games begin!
     
  12. kick4fun

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    That's ridiculous! Put the channels like Webtraveler suggested in a spot that makes sense for all... Sports tiers, news tiers, etc... Want sports? SPORTS PACK! Easy peasy, lemon squeezy!
     
  13. Go Beavs

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    The problem is the content owners don't want that, they want their channel available to the most viewers. I'm guessing that's what's going on with DIRECTV and the PAC-12. Sports Pack or a basic package.
     
  14. kick4fun

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    This is so lame.. I want PAC12 Networks... I would love to stay with Directv and have this too... Let's make it happen...
     
  15. TheRatPatrol

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    Then those channels won't be making any money and can go pound sand. It's better to make some then no money at all. By not being on D* they're losing money.
     
  16. stevester23

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    I think your right. Time Warner and the NFL Network have been waging this same war for years.

    Unlike myself, many viewers have no interest in Sports and dont want to pay for it. I have ZERO interest in Sci-Fi & the Viacom channels. Im sure it's a balancing act to try to satisfy as many subscribers as possible at the lowest cost possible.
     
  17. JoeTheDragon

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    let's see likely Big ten sports pack out of the big ten market and same place as it is now in market.
     
  18. Satelliteracer

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    Contracts dictate consistency, or lack of it. Remember that some contracts go back 5 to 10 years before sports programming expenses exploded. If a contract said you must be part of CHOICE, then that's what must be done.
     
  19. tonyd79

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    Do you think package placement is going to be the big contention point of the future?
     
  20. WebTraveler

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    The true test was with Viacom in putting things in tiers and Directv blew it.

    MOST of the Viacom channels are JUNK and appeal to limited folks.

    MTV, VH1, etc. has become garbage. College students and they have no money.

    Nick (and how many other nick spinoffs?) Kids channels, but kids don't decide cable and have no money.

    Spike TV? Really? Just re-runs.

    Maybe Comedy Central, but that;s a strech if you need all the other garbage.


     
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