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PAC-12 and DISH have deal

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DC_SnDvl, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. ajc68

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    Scott said that Dish accepted the same offer they had on the table with DTV. The cable deals have nothing to do with that statement.

    We also know that the P12Net is now carried by four of the five largest companies. Why is the so called sports leader holding out? My guess is the P12 is the victim of bad timing. It appears White is transitioning DTV into a new business model which includes a tougher negotiation stance, channel blackouts, etc. This is not the DTV I've been a part of since 1999, and it probably never will be again. The market is shifting and cable has the upper hand on where it's headed. They are smartly buying up the television rights of professional teams to freeze out satellite, which will expedite it's demise. I won't be surprised if we see merger talks heat up again in the near future as it may be the only way both satellite companies can extend their longevity.
     
  2. donm

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    I just had a thought of why Directv and Charter are saying they are not getting the same deals as the other top providers. I know The Pac 12 Network was not 100% happy with Comcast and some of the other cable company's and possible Dish(HD part time). Maybe they closed any loops holes that were exploited by Comcast, Dish etc and it isn't the same deal. The money might be the same but how you carry it isn't. I hope I'm making sense.
     
  3. kick4fun

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    Good Point
     
  4. kick4fun

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    Perfectly
     
  5. tonyd79

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    Comcast is their partner and distributor. Doubt they are mad at them. In fact, I believe they attribute the regional plan to a Comcast idea.
     
  6. kick4fun

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    I wish DISH had a buy out contract deal.. I think I might switch
     
  7. tonyd79

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    Since Dish has pretty much ZERO sports bar penetration, again, the deals could NOT be the same. The commercial market for directv cannot be ignored.

    That's just it. Every system is different. So the deals cannot be the same deal. Maybe the root problem is that the PAC 12 doesn't understand that.
     
  8. donm

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    Comcast is their partner and distributor but so is Dish and anybody else carrying the Pac 12 network and they are not any more important then the other. Neither owns any part of the Pac 12 Network. Only the Pac 12 owns the Pac 12 Network. It is different then the Big 10 Network or any other network. If the Pac 12 Network is successful the teams will be making a ton of money. They have all the rights and sold only some of the games(1/3 each between ESPN, Fox and Pac 12) to ESPN and Fox for a ton of money and keep the Pac 12 Network and all its rights like streaming.
     
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    The about of angst this is causing you may be worth any buyouts.

    Or at least lower your package on directv or suspend your account to see if it shows up.

    It is obvious this means a lot to you. There are ways to get it. Either change or blend.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Not quite. Comcast is their distributor of signal. PAC 12 does not own the facilities. That is what I meant by partner. And the regional networks idea was attributed to comcast.
     
  11. kick4fun

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    Sad thing is I can stream Pac12 to the TV via laptop and HDMI, but I'm getting worked up.. Damn.. My wife laughs at me over this, but it would just be easier to get all the programming "I" want. Call me selfish, but I want it..
     
  12. donm

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    There you go again! I do believe it is probably both a Directv and Pac 12 problem. I think if Pac 12 doesn't understand that Directv is making it perfectly clear why they are not taking the deal. At least I hope they are. The Pac 12 already said they know that cable and satellite have different problems with the carriage.
     
  13. tonyd79

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    Just don't bust a blood vessel. :)

    Hopefully we will have it in the not too distant future. Both sides want it. They just have to find common ground.

    If directv and deal with Viacom and PAC 12 can deal with Dish, they can find it.

    Really think it comes down to PAC 12 learning what can be done and what cannot. They seem to have evolved their model a bit. Maybe it will keep happening.
     
  14. donm

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    Yes, you are right about Comcast but they still don't own any of the Pac 12 Network. They are paid or compensated someway for helping set up the broadcast facilities.
     
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    I agree that the market is shifting, but I think its headed towards online streaming that will make the ISPs the driving force. That's how many of us are watching the PAC-12 Net right now. While I would rather be able to see its content through D*, I am through concerning myself with either parties' stance in this carriage dispute.
     
  16. donm

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    The Pac 12 networks are the first owned fully by a conference without support from outside groups (BTN has Fox as a 49% owner and Mtn. had CBS and Comcast as partners). The Pac 12 has no outside partners!!!!!!
     
  17. tonyd79

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    Yes. But they are not just another provider. That was my point. They are closer to the PAC 12 than anyone else.
     
  18. kick4fun

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    I also failed to mention this.. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/aug/23/martin-stadium-plans-hold-until-tv-deals-are-compl/
     
  19. donm

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    Maybe at first but not now. I don't think the Pac 12 is happy about how Comcast is carrying and streaming the network.
     
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    You could switch your entire setup to Dish, get 3 hoppers, and reduce your DirecTV package to the lowest Entertainment package. If you are no longer on promotional pricing right now, you would most likely pay LESS in total for the the coming 2 years than what you are paying now for just DirecTV. Keep 1 unit for DirecTV and you will still have AMC.

    Pros:
    - Saves money due to heavy promotional pricing by Dish.
    - Get PAC12 and AMC.
    - Get several "basic" HD channels DirecTV doesn't have while keeping HD channels Dish doesn't have.

    Cons:
    - Wife will laugh at you even more.
    - 2 Dishes on roof, 2 cables to the TV that also has the 1 DirecTV unit.
    - 2 year Dish deal. (but can cancel in 2 years and move everything back to full time DirecTV if DirecTV carries network by then).
     
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