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PAC-12 and DISH have deal

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by DC_SnDvl, Sep 8, 2012.

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  1. TBoneit

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    At the same time I suspect that the average subscriber doesn't even know or care that they don't have the PAC12.

    It is a belief that I've said before that the splintering into all these sports nets will in the long run hurt the sport.

    I used to go to Yankee stadium years ago, same with Shea stadium, Until they priced themselves out of my reach. SO I stopped watching on TV as a protest. SCROOOOMMMM

    Same deal with Broadway shows. I used to go once or twice a Month until the price went to high.

    I saw many a show, The King & I with Yul Brynner, Best little *****house in Texas, Godspell, JC superstar, Evita (Original cast) Oh Calcutta, And many others. Too Pricey now. I used to go to Radio City Music Hall, same thing.

    You know what else I survived it and enjoyed using the $$$ elsewhere.
    Are there really that many sports bars as a percentage of total bars?
     
  2. tonyd79

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    Big Ten defines Big Ten territories as any state which has a school. I think the PAC 12 is defining to actual markets. Not sure how Dish is handling it. I know cable systems and the local channel were breaking down that way.

    Not sure there is much population density in the PAC 12 area. California largely hugs the coast and you go have Utah and Colorado and Arizona and eastern Washington and Oregon. Think the heart of the Big Ten is more dense overall.
     
  3. tonyd79

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    All bars become sports bars to some extent. We aren't just talking buffalo wild wings.

    There is an app that uses directvs database to see where you can see sports like nfl, etc. the sheer number in any location is stunning.
     
  4. donm

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    I think if your counting population per square mile the midwest would be a lot higher. The west is so spread out but the total population might be closer then you think. California alone has a lot of population. Again I haven't checked and I could be way off and your right.
     
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    California is the big hitter for sure. It is close, sort of.

    Looking at electoral college, PAC 12 states have 100 votes. Big Ten 116. Take off the 2 per state to leave population based and you get 88 for PAC 12 and 98 for Big Ten. California accounts for 55 (or 53 after the 2 per state).

    Even with rounding error of population per vote, the Big Ten area is about 10% more.

    And all that assumes full states per the Big Ten model. As I said, I don't think the PAC 12 model assumes full states.

    Somebody check my math. I did it from a map quickly.
     
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  7. tonyd79

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    Thanks for the confirmation.
     
  8. kick4fun

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    Side note, I too saw Yul Brynner in the King and I.. Dang, we're old.. I just can't accept that we have to watch BTN and a host of other RSN's including Root Sports, but no PAC12? Crazy
     
  9. DC_SnDvl

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    Yes. nm
     
  10. kick4fun

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    so if Directv has 19,996,000 customers and DISH has 14,071,000 customers, how many of these are commercial accounts? I'm assuming all the commercial accounts are using Directv because of NFL and other sports.. Any thoughts? just wondering here...
     
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    Instead of getting Dish, some may have the option that I'm looking at, assuming your local cable provider carries the Pac-12.

    My local is Time Warner and they do carry the national channel in their Sports Pack. I can sub to their basic tier (mainly just local channels) for $19.99 and add the Sports Pack for $6.99. Roughly $27 plus tax and I'm in business. I also want Pac-12 Arizona. I can get that online if I'm a Time Warner sub. I can either watch on my iPad/laptop or stream to my big screen using the iPad/Macbook and AirPlay.

    Cablecos almost never advertise their basic/lifeline tier. They're required to have one but you may have to ask for it.
     
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    Not sure the 19 mil number includes commercial accounts. Think that is households.

    Interesting data I found:

    http://www.directvadsales.com/Research.aspx#0-1

    And rate card for hotels. Interesting for a la carte discussions.

    http://www.directv.com/cms2/commercial/pdfs/SMATVNewCustkit.pdf


    Can't find anything on number of commercial subs. Bars or hotels.
     
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  16. kick4fun

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    That's great.. Have fun..
     
  17. donm

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    Interesting but I can see the Directv fanboy's picking this article apart.

    I just read a article that the lawsuit between Dish and AMC is scheduled for Sept 17th (this Monday) and there is a chance they will settle and the AMC will be back on Dish. I was thinking of ordering Dish and keeping Directv but now will wait until Monday or Tuesday and see if there is any movement on Dish and AMC. If AMC is on Dish I will switch to Dish in a heartbeat!
     
  18. kick4fun

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    I think there is a little truth to this but not as important as the article makes it to be. I don't think I can get myself to root for USC but if it got us the Pac 12 network I can at least try.
     
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