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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 28, 2013 #241 of 2911
    inkahauts

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    If you are in a market where there is more than one RSN in your market they add an extra RSN fee to your bill no option to opt out.

    And you seem to miss the point on what's happen with RSN fees. They are all increasing their rates and teams are creating more channels. If this keeps up RSN fees will be higher than espn in every market. They already are in Los Angeles and ny I am sure an its only going to get worse.

    A line needs to be drawn.

    At what point do they stop all this add RSN without care. When sports are 59% of the bill? 60%. It's gettin ridiculous already.

    Directv doesn't want to lose subs to "cord cutters". Which will happen if they don't keep sports costs which are by far the most expensive programming from continuing to increase out of control.

    And please. I don't think DIRECTV wants to offer these channels as ppv. I think they are simply stating try have offered several options and none have been listened too. A La cart and lower picking to make it in line with the big ten network is not what the pac12 is interested in.
     
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  2. Jul 28, 2013 #242 of 2911
    chillyfl

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    You're confused on Big Ten. BTN is on the DirecTV Choice package, everywhere. BTN is estimated as getting 97 cents per sub inside footprint. The BTN is what P12N is shooting for, though at a slightly lower rate (~80 cents per sub... all estimates are latest I could find from SNL Kagan).
     
  3. Jul 28, 2013 #243 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    Sorry about the sarcasm, But until Directv wants to give us an option on all Base packages to drop this BS RSN fee, I don't want ANY forced RSNs on me.
    I'm in Big Ten country, and if Directv dropped that channel, I wouldn't care one bit. All the games are broadcast locally anyway, and ESPN as well as your local news is more then informative about the days games.


    No they are not. If the game is on BTN, it is only on BTN.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2013 #244 of 2911
    TheRatPatrol

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    Some people don't want to go to or take their families to a bar to watch a football game. And most bars have D* already, so they're SOL. Although I have been seeing a few add cable as a supplement to get The Pac 12 Network. And what exactly is "whatever?"
     
  5. Jul 28, 2013 #245 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    "Whatever" includes, but is not limited to: A friend's house, a restaurant, a gym, a hotel, a train station (not many!), a neighbor, with invitation, or peeping through windows.........
     
  6. Jul 28, 2013 #246 of 2911
    Mariah2014

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    2 things need to be clearly understood. This network will never get added to Directv and the price isn't going to change. They won't change it because that means everyone else gets a rate cut. Where as the situation that Fox is facing is a bit different. They will likely have to settle for better package but the price per customer they received for Speed to get on cable and satellite companies besides Comcast. Comcast knew they could add because they will get to match the better deals anyway. Pac 12 knows they can survive with the customer base they have and Fox is learning quickly they have to make changes or not be on most cable and satellite carries when it comes to the changes they are making to their stations.
     
  7. Jul 28, 2013 #247 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    "Whatever" includes, but is not limited to: A friend's house, a restaurant, a gym, a hotel, a train station (not many!), a neighbor, with invitation, or peeping through windows.........


    Or go to the game.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2013 #248 of 2911
    boukengreen

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    that's like my aunt and uncle schelderd there's around the bama/tenn game
     
  9. Jul 28, 2013 #249 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Never say never. Unless you're in management at DIRECTV®....
     
  10. Jul 28, 2013 #250 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Not very many!
     
  11. Jul 28, 2013 #251 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    Whatever. Nice try to cover your statement.

    And it was wide ranging. BTN has a decent amount of football and lots of basketball.
     
  12. Jul 28, 2013 #252 of 2911
    James Long

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    The irony of complaining about high priced channels with this channel as your avatar ...
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    There is a reason why YES is not on DISH ... they offered a deal that DISH could refuse. There is a reason why PAC-12 is not on DirecTV ... their offer is one DirecTV can refuse. Perhaps not carrying a particular RSN will hurt a provider in a specific area of the country but both providers are looking at the big picture. And since they are the one with billions invested in the companies and they are the ones actually making the decisions I'll defer to their wisdom.

    Perhaps the carriage / non-carriage decision would not match the decisions I would make. But we are only getting hints of the deals that are being offered by PAC-12. It is a private negotiation.
     
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  13. Jul 28, 2013 #253 of 2911
    damondlt

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    I'm sorry isn't this a Directv thread?
    , And for your information YES has been on Directv since YES has been a channel.
    Dish gave up on NY sports fans all together is there a reason for that?

    There is also a reason Dish Need a merger and Has far less customers too. Maybe you should look into that first!
    Like it or not Yankees have more fans then any other team period.!
     
  14. Jul 29, 2013 #254 of 2911
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    It's now time for those Pac 12 loyalists to walk. No deal w/Directv this season.

    So time will tell how many actually drop.
     
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    Laxguy

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    Time always does!

    At the same time, no one on this board, with a couple of possible exceptions, will ever know the number who drop due to the Pac12 impasse. I bet it's a pretty small number in the relative scheme of things.

    Take care, and good luck!
     
  16. Jul 29, 2013 #256 of 2911
    tjguitar

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    I would imagine those who were going to drop already have.
     
  17. Jul 29, 2013 #257 of 2911
    James Long

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    It is in the DirecTV Programming forum ... and the discussion is clearly about DirecTV carrying or not carrying the channel.

    Plenty of posts noting other carriers coverage as well ... so please calm down and read the thread. :)


    YES wanted carriage in the lowest package ... for DirecTV, Choice then fit that bill. The same package where other RSNs were placed. DirecTV paid their customer's money and everyone was happy (until DirecTV added the additional fees for multi-RSN markets that you have noted). DISH has their RSNs in the second tier ... YES would not accept that placement. Somehow both companies survive (just like Pac-12 vs DirecTV).

    Is YES happy that DirecTV has introduced a lower than Choice package that does not include RSNs? Or is YES an exception to the "RSN at Choice and above" channel placement? Some companies are not happy accepting the same deal that similar companies have accepted. That could apply to DirecTV not accepting Pac-12's deal or Pac-12 accepting DirecTV's placement.
     
  18. Jul 29, 2013 #258 of 2911
    inkahauts

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    It's now time for those Pac 12 loyalists to walk. No deal w/Directv this season.

    So time will tell how many actually drop.


    I'm a big fan of pac12 football and basketball and ill ether figure out another way to get the games or miss some. I'm not leaving DIRECTV for this channel.
     
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  19. Jul 29, 2013 #259 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Exactly so we don't need to hear anything about Dish Network.
     
  20. Jul 29, 2013 #260 of 2911
    WebTraveler

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    I know many folks who keep hoping Directv comes on board. You will see some exodus now. It's a month out before games start.

    I doubt for the moment it is enough to push Directv into a different direction, but one can only hope.
     

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