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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 30, 2013 #301 of 2940
    Laxguy

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    It's not all!

    And your sentence above does indeed show him to be a classy guy, lacking in all ego........
     
  2. Jul 30, 2013 #302 of 2940
    drded

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    If you just look at the financial numbers and take the emotions out of the arguement, DirecTV is doing the right thing for its multitude of customers. All 18 million plus should not have to pay for something only a couple million at best want.

    If you insist on adding the emotional element into the arguement, nothing is going to sway you either way and the accusations and name calling will continue.

    Dave
     
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  3. Jul 30, 2013 #303 of 2940
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    I would think its safe to say couple hundred thousand at best.
     
  4. Jul 30, 2013 #304 of 2940
    Laxguy

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    Yes, 'cause it's not the number of alumni, it's not the number of alumni who are DIRECTV subscribers, it's the number of subs who feel really passionate about seeing every single game in the major sports, and/or many games of minor sports....
     
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    joshjr

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    If you look at things that way, we would hardly have any channels in a base package.
     
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    joshjr

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    I don't even think that is true. There are a ton of OU Sooner fans here that never went to school there and are huge fans. Most of my wifes family are Sooner fans and none of them went to school there.
     
  7. Jul 30, 2013 #307 of 2940
    Devo1237

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    Yeah, that doesn't just happen at OU. It happens at Pac-12 schools, too.
     
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    Laxguy

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    Josh-

    I was talking primarily Pac12, but fans are fans. You don't have to be an alumnus to be fanatical, nor does being one make you so.
     
  9. Jul 30, 2013 #309 of 2940
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    I would think its safe to say couple hundred thousand at best.


    Come on. There's millions I pac12 football fans in this country. Saying anything to the contrary is silly. I doubt any conference has less than a few million fans that's big and been around awhile.
     
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    That doesn't mean they all subscribe to Directv
     
  11. Jul 30, 2013 #311 of 2940
    Laxguy

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    See post 304.
     
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    Exactly :righton:
     
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    According to this link, Directv serves only 1.4 million in PAC 12 country. So of that how many are fans? Half maybe?, Not everyone likes or cares about college sports.

    Based on this research out of 21 Million subscriber I would think it would be safe to assume Pac 12 fans are in the less then .5%

    http://www.tvpredictions.com/dpac072713.htm
     
  14. Jul 30, 2013 #314 of 2940
    damondlt

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    This gives me hope that Directv is getting Tired of these sports networks demands. And we will start to see some results.

    The Times writes that DIRECTV spokesman Robert Mercer countered:

    "The decision is entirely up to the Pac 12. We would love to give the network to those customers who want it...There are a number of things the Pac 12 can do to make it work. Either lower the price so that it's affordable to all of our customers or let us sell the network only to those who want to pay for it."
     
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    Is there any basis for that 1.4 million subscriber number? Considering the source, I'm skeptical, I might be wrong, but aren't there more than 1.4 million subs in all of California, Arizona, Colorado, Utah, Washington and Oregon? What about commercial accounts?
     
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    That would be fine if they were not making me pay for B1G
     
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    Dave, well to be sure, not all 18 million customers were ever asked to be part of the deal. The deal is/was available for those in market. In sports pack outside. Some difference could be in what the market is defined as, but that's the deal.

    No different from what the other providers offer.
     
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    Yes, I am not sure those numbers are correct either. In fact, in this article ESPN reports there are 1.7M subscribers in the LA market alone.

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8636444/los-angeles-lakers-shown-directv
     
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    Dave, well to be sure, not all 18 million customers were ever asked to be part of the deal. The deal is/was available for those in market. In sports pack outside. Some difference could be in what the market is defined as, but that's the deal.

    No different from what the other providers offer.


    Do we actually know that? I've seen mention that they wanted the Big Ten deal from directv.
     
  20. Jul 31, 2013 #320 of 2940
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    Well, no one here has seen the contract offerings nor been in the smoke filled rooms.

    But if you believe what every other provider has received (which is normally how it works), Dish has it in market and multi sports pack out of market. Comcast has it in market and then (on some systems) available out of market for a cost (although not nationwide, but nevertheless still available in market), Time Warner has it in market and out of market (in some markets) for a cost.

    Problem with cable is that each system has its own system and it may not pencil out for Comcast to put it on a sports tier on every one of its systems nationwide.

    No way Dish and Directv will get different deals.

    Think of it this way - if Directv were to get a special deal from Pac 12, Pac 12 would have to pay back every single other system in the country. When there are so many systems on board that is hard to believe.

    Directv made a business decision to not carry the channel. There is nothing wrong with Larry Scott saying that he does not believe the channel will be on Directv this year - and if you want Pac 12 then you will need to switch. After all last year, Directv flat told me (many times) they wanted the channel and were in active negotiations for it. I held out, and held out and didn't get it. Then it comes out Directv was never really serious about the channel and was filling me with a line of bull to keep me from leaving. I did leave, in October of last year, and am doing fine with Dish right now. The only downside is during non-live events the coverage is in SD. But I can get it all streamed in HD from Pac-12's website, so its all workable. Plus in the event the regional Pac 12 channels are showing different events it's on an alternate channel or I can stream it live, It works.

    Directv is singling out the Pac 12 as an example and it's made its decision. Fans have a choice and its up to them what they do. Regardless Pac 12 is making more money than ever for the schools.
     
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