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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 31, 2013 #341 of 2940
    inkahauts

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    I think the problem is you under the impression thiis the only channel Dtv is doing this with and will do this with. It's not, the list is growing and I have a feeling it's going to get much bigger in terms of profile over the next year and a half.
     
  2. Jul 31, 2013 #342 of 2940
    tjguitar

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    Well, until it happens with another channel, this is the only national sports channel that DTV is doing this with. We shall see what happens.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2013 #343 of 2940
    Mariah2014

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    I don't think you will have to wait very long. Fox Sports 1 may be that channel.
     
  4. Jul 31, 2013 #344 of 2940
    tjguitar

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    I'll believe that when I see it
     
  5. Jul 31, 2013 #345 of 2940
    rrdirectsr

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    What about CSN Houston and Longhorn Network.
     
  6. Jul 31, 2013 #346 of 2940
    Mike Bertelson

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    Pac-12 is not alone. FS1 wants to nearly quadruple their fee when they switch from Speed and so far they haven’t reached an agreement with any major carrier. CSN Houston, CSN Philadelphia, CSN Portland, Longhorn Network...

    PAC-12 is not in a unique situation nor are they being singled out.

    Sports carriage fee increases are larger and rising faster than any other category so I’ll bet there will be more coming.

    Mike
     
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  7. Jul 31, 2013 #347 of 2940
    tjguitar

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    The CSN's are regional networks, not national networks, and the LHN has so little content that it's not even close to the same situation.

    If FS1 is not carried, then I will give you that one, but I don't believe for a second that FS1 won't be there when it launches.

    It's incorrect to state they haven't made any agreements with a major carrier. Both Uverse and Time Warner announced the name change for 8/17.
     
  8. Jul 31, 2013 #348 of 2940
    damondlt

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    CSN Philly is more then just money, Comcast doesn't want Directv to have it.
     
  9. Jul 31, 2013 #349 of 2940
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    Yea, and what about HRTV. I and many others have been waiting many many years for it, yet still not on. Just my 2cents and frustration at DirecTV
     
  10. Jul 31, 2013 #350 of 2940
    TJNash

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    TWC definitely has NOT signed a carriage deal for FS1. And I can find no confirmation of a uverse deal, either. My source: the past month of the Sports Business Daily.
     
  11. Jul 31, 2013 #351 of 2940
    je4755

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    [SIZE=12pt]I don’t subscribe to Sports Business Journal but a broadly-accessible article by John Ourand dated July 15 stated “[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable - representing more than 46 million subscribers - still are negotiating to carry FS1 on Aug. 17. . . .” I thereby infer Comcast has concluded a carriage agreement with Fox. Ourand subsequently tweeted an assessment DirecTV likely will consummate a deal for Fox Sports 1: “Maybe not by launch date. But my gut says yes.” [/SIZE]
     
  12. Jul 31, 2013 #352 of 2940
    Mike Bertelson

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    Actually, PAC-12 Networks aren’t national either. IIUC, PAC-12 will be carried regionally for everyone in market and nationally as part of the Sports Pack...exactly the same as the CSNs.

    Uverse, TWC, Dish, DIRECTV, Cox...as of this morning no agreements. AFAIK, Comcast is the only carrier that has signed on and that was part of a larger deal the end of last year.

    Additionally, Time Warner just posted on Facebook, “We do not have any definitive plans, at this time.” To carry FS1.

    https://www.facebook.com/twc/posts/573342549376267

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    The latest figure I can find is in 2009, the average retrains fee for Speed was $.20 & FSN was $2.37 per sub. So at $.80, (or even $1) , FS1 seems to be a bargain as does the reported $.80 in-market fee the PAC 12 Net is asking.
    http://i0.wp.com/mediamemo.allthingsd.com/files/2010/03/cable-sub-fees.png

    With the advent of more RSNs owned by D* & Comcast, I can't imagine Fox Sports Net can still have the second highest retrains fee with ESPN the tops at $5.55 today ($4.08 in 2009).
     
  14. Jul 31, 2013 #354 of 2940
    tjguitar

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    You can get the CSNs in sports pack, but you can't actually view the sports. You would need MLBEI, NHLCI and NBALP for that. Saying Pac 12 is regional because it's only in sports pack would be like saying NHL Network is a regional channel because it's only available in sports pack.


    I guess I was wrong about TWC. As far as Uverse goes See here:

    http://www.att.com/Common/iptv/files/programming/index.html

    Effective August 17th, Speed (channel 652 and 1652 in HD) is being renamed to FOX Sports 1 and Fuel (channel 651) is being renamed to FOX Sports 2.



    If FOX doesn't get these providers to carry FS1, they are going to be screwed - weren't the conferences guaranteed a certain number of homes when they allowed the move of games from FX to FS1?
     
  15. Jul 31, 2013 #355 of 2940
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    Actually, what it says is "DirecTV has roughly 1.7 subscribers in Southern California."

    Yeah, I know, that's presumably a typo for 1.7 million.

    Hard to tell exactly what they meant by "Southern California," though. Since it was a story about the Lakers, if they meant only the Los Angeles DMA, that 1.7 million number would represent about 30% of the TV households in the DMA. I do see quite a few DirecTV dishes around here, but I'd actually be a little surprised if it were as high as 30%.
     
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    joshjr

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    DirecTV has a la carte channels. The outdoor channel is a la carte.



    Can I get The Outdoor Channel a la carte?

    Yes, you can add The Outdoor Channel (Ch. 606) to any DIRECTV base package for only $3.50 a month! To order, call 1-800-531-5000.

    http://support.directv.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3504/kw/a%20la%20carte
     
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    The dog channel, debuting tomorrow, will be ala carte after a free trial period.
     
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    Yea, and what about HRTV. I and many others have been waiting many many years for it, yet still not on. Just my 2cents and frustration at DirecTV


    Those channels you're thinking of are a joke. Those are niche sports not rsn's or national sports channels which carry either professional or college sports. Those channels would be a waste of time next to money for DTV
     
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    TJNash

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    Public notice of a channel name change isn't the same as confirmation of a new carriage deal. So far, there has been no confirmation that FOX has a new deal with uverse to carry FS1/2.
     
  20. Jul 31, 2013 #360 of 2940
    inkahauts

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    Well, until it happens with another channel, this is the only national sports channel that DTV is doing this with. We shall see what happens.


    But really this isn't so much a national channel that was lost. Games have only been lost regionally. Nationally you already have more games. Huston hasn't gotten that ridiculous RSN up, neither has the longhorn network. Ad dont forget the trailblazers terriorty. And its funny how many people seem to think DIRECTV is just going to say yes to the Dodgers and the sec channel. Heck, they didn't have the Lakers channel till well after the season started, so you know that something changed on both parties stances in that one. That's the only reason I feel there is any hope for the Dodgers channel, but I still don't think that will be on.

    And have you noticed that DIRECTV never has added espn3 etc? They could have added that with the negotiation for swapping espn college....

    Ad do you remember vs going off the air for 9 months? DIRECTV has done this in the past to get what they want, and its worked. No reason to expect any different. Its just DIRECTV has had better negation a from the start with many of the current channels, but all these new channels they just don't seem to get what they are causing pricing wise. Its a true additional price for a whole new channel for NO gain in revenue for DIRECTV. How's that logical?
     

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