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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Aug 19, 2013 #641 of 2911
    Bambler

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    I honestly believe DirecTV just doesn't want it anymore.

    Also, in regards to the price, there are leaks. Heck, look at the NSA, they can't even keep things locked down.

    Here's my theory as to why this thing is so pretentious. I have no basis for any of this other than my supposition.

    DirecTV was one of the first and most hard-pressed providers the Pac reached out to. They were prepared to offer exclusive stadium advertising agreements and other perks and DirecTV was ready to sign with the Pac-12 network. For whatever reason, things faltered, egos got involved and the Pac-12 Network took their deal to Dish. They jumped at the chance, DirecTV felt betrayed and launches their standard PR fare and here we stand.
     
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    Laxguy

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    Well, that certainly is conjecture, but very plausible. Who really knows? Those who do won't say, and the rest of us are shooting in the dark.
     
  3. Aug 19, 2013 #643 of 2911
    James Long

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    "Sources said the conference charges around 80 cents per subscriber per month for its main channel in Los Angeles."
    SportsBusiness Daily - November 5, 2012

    I'd like to see a better source, such as a direct statement by SNL Kagan. But that is a respectable site.
     
  4. Aug 19, 2013 #644 of 2911
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    His last name is Scott.

    Notwithstanding that, he's got the channel on 40+ carriers. I hardly believe that anyone would want to terminate him. He's done exactly what he has been expected to do - raise revenue for the Pac 12.
     
  5. Aug 19, 2013 #645 of 2911
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    Yea, but you need to consider that in Alabama there just isn't much to do. In S. Cal you compete with the beach, amusement parks, other sports, and so on. In NY you've got all kinds of other interests just as well. According to this 8.5 of every 10 people watch college football. That's an incredible number. And yes, I've been to Alabama. There really isn't much there!
     
  6. Aug 19, 2013 #646 of 2911
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    Wilner has lots of contacts at the Pac 12 offices.
     
  7. Aug 19, 2013 #647 of 2911
    George_T

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    D's the big fish, and he hasn't hooked it yet. And, if revenues are significantly short of projections, don't believe for a minute that the Pac-12 schools won't reevaluate Scott's status.
     
  8. Aug 19, 2013 #648 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    It's not just about revenues, unless one is cynical about the Universities' collective mission and integrity. They are missing a lot of eyeballs with out directv.
     
  9. Aug 20, 2013 #649 of 2911
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    Jon Wilner confirms PAC 12 is getting $.80 a sub from all providers. I don't see why D'* thinks its deserves a better deal than everyone else


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    because that price is to high for the channel which has nothing to do with how much other providers think its worth?


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  10. Aug 20, 2013 #650 of 2911
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    That's a choice Directv and its customers are making really. Pac 12 is available at the same price and on the same terms as 40 other carriers. Is your Directv bill any lower than most of these competitors? The terms are well known.....in market on a basic tier and out of market in a sports specialty pack, just like every other competitor.

    What is the magic number? If not 80 cents, then 70 cents, or 50 cents, or 25 cents? Then what? You've destroyed the system on the other end and now have to give a rebate back to everyone else because you sold out. Consider that Comcast is actively expanding distribution as we speak. The midwest systems are getting the channel and rumor has it New England and Washington DC areas are not far behind. So its not like the channel is not going anywhere, because it clearly is.

    You do not destroy yourself to add a carrier when you already have 40 other carriers on board
     
  11. Aug 20, 2013 #651 of 2911
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    well just about every other system thinks its reasonable. Its also believed to be 80 cents in market and something substantially less out of market. Is your bill with Directv lower? Nope.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2013 #652 of 2911
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    I think the Pac is prepared to forget about DirecTV as much as DirecTV doesn't think the Pac is important.

    Ironically, revenues is precisely why this deal won't happen if DirecTV continues to demand their discount.

    The deal is just not going to happen.
     
  13. Aug 20, 2013 #653 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Here since you asked,
    One of the most successful franchises in professional sports history, the Yankees have won 18 division titles, 40 AL pennants, and 27 World Series championships, all of which are MLB records

    When a Pac 12 team can say this, then maybe they should have their own channel.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2013 #654 of 2911
    damondlt

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    You make no sense at all. YES is not getting pulled of the air . and again we aren't talking about CBS.
    We are talking about RSNs.
    2 totally different types of programming.

    That's like comparing LMN to NFL network.

    Some of you are trying to compare YES with PAC 12. Well fine, again when pac 12 is the number one college division with the most bowl wins and dominates all of college football
    and have been a team since 1901 then they can be compared to YES when it comes to networks.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2013 #655 of 2911
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    Not much except for two schools that have combined to win the last five BCS championships from a conference that has won 9 BCS championships including 8 of the last 9. The PAC 12 has won one BCS championship game, which was later vacated, so officially it is SEC - 9, PAC 12 - 0 (or SEC - 9 everyone else - 5 if you want to go nationally).

    When you take into consideration that the population of Alabama is only 12.7% as large as California, it is quite an accomplishment.

    It is true that the PAC 12 has won 17 College World Series to the SEC's 9; however, if you look at game attendance, again, the SEC dominates. Every one of the top 25 on-campus games by attendance included at least one SEC school, and 15 of the 25 were games between SEC schools. No PAC 12 school played in any of the top 25 games.
     
  16. Aug 20, 2013 #656 of 2911
    Sandra

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    Jeez. Like being a team since 1901 means anything to this discussion.

    I guess in your world the Reds are more important than the Yankees....all the original members of the National League for that matter. The entire LEAGUE predates the Yankees.

    Bottom line is that the carriage agreement between YES and DirecTV has a renewal date...just like every channel. If the two do not come to an agreement, YES COULD be pulled off the air. That is fact.

    Much larger channels have gone dark, and so can YES. In fact, YES has been dark on Dish forever, so I guess they feel all those championships are irrelevant to their bottom line.


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  17. Aug 20, 2013 #657 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Again not relevant to this conversation or topic.

    Pac 12 wasn't pulled off the air . It was never put there to begin with.

    HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE YANKEES!
     
  18. Aug 20, 2013 #658 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Back that up. Please! :smoking:
     
  19. Aug 20, 2013 #659 of 2911
    sigma1914

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    There's a lot of nothing in SoCal, too. I guess there's only amusement parks in SoCal.
     
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