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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

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  1. Aug 20, 2013 #681 of 2911
    sdk009

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    A comment attached to Tuesday's Jon Wilner blog from James Jones: "Unfortunately are (sic) price is .80 in footprint and .5 to .10 outside (not disclosed) The Sports Business Journal estimated in year 1 we ended with 26 million subs and total revenue from carriage at 108 million. That works out to a national average of .24 per sub. Exact numbers in footprint and out are not known but likely 8 to 12 million in footprint and the rest out of footprint. If all of our national carriers would put us in basic we could easily survive on somewhere around the .24 if we had DTV and the others offer us in basic nationally but they will not and so we must hold are price we set in order to not lose money."

    So at a blended rate of .$24 its only a penny more than what FS1 got. Now I really need my question answered, why doesn't DirecTV want to put this channel into a "basic" package instead of demanding the Net be pay-for-view channel.
     
  2. Aug 20, 2013 #682 of 2911
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    What channel did it replace?


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  3. Aug 20, 2013 #683 of 2911
    Sandra

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    Do you pay for the Big Ten Network? What package do you have?


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  4. Aug 20, 2013 #684 of 2911
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    See problem is how many people in the footprint and outside really want this channel.

    I don't care if 10 million are in the footprint if only 500,000 want it.
    See what I'm getting at. I'm sure Directv is thinking the exact same way. I wouldn't pay .24 cents for it. And I shouldn't be forced to. But I know how TV works and I pay for lots of channel I don't want.

    I want Comcast Philly, But I'll do without it, if it means everyone and their mother has to pay for it.
    IMO this is a more demaned channel then Pac 12
     
  5. Aug 20, 2013 #685 of 2911
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    Speed
     
  6. Aug 20, 2013 #686 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Choice Extra,

    BigTen ,MSG, MSG + SNY and YES are my local RSNs.

    Don't go down the Big Ten Road because their are over 19 million fans!
     
  7. Aug 20, 2013 #687 of 2911
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    I thought FS2 replace Speed


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  8. Aug 20, 2013 #688 of 2911
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    So you do pay for the Big Ten Network.


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  9. Aug 20, 2013 #689 of 2911
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    That's FUEL.
     
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  10. Aug 20, 2013 #690 of 2911
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    FS1 replaced Speed
    FS2 replaced Fuel.

    DirecTV and a couple others refused the high price and Fox agreed to keep the deal the same as long as the contracts last.
     
  11. Aug 20, 2013 #691 of 2911
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    I pay for all my channels.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2013 #692 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Same happened with our Local cable company.
     
  13. Aug 20, 2013 #693 of 2911
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    FS1 is being carried under the same terms that SPEED was carried previously. FOX tried to get the providers to pay a higher price for FS1 ($.80 per sub, oddly the same price being quoted for PAC-12 Network), but they were not able to get enough providers to sign up at the higher price. They needed a certain amount of exposure to satisfy the conditions of the TV contracts they signed with various sports leagues and events, so FOX was forced to give in and let the providers have the channel at the lower cost (around $.30 per sub).

    When the channel comes up for renewal, FOX is expected to push hard for the price increase they were unable to get. Things may get ugly then, as they are now for P12N.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2013 #694 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Exactly, and with only just over a 1/3 of the fans that the Big TEN has.
    Good luck, That's why they want so much, Cause they know they wouldn't make much money otherwise.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2013 #695 of 2911
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    So you're willing to pay extra for Big Ten Network but not Pac-12. Gotcha.


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  16. Aug 20, 2013 #696 of 2911
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    Exactly, because as far as he's concerned everyone in the country wants BTN and no one wants P12. Apparently, the more it's posted, the more it's true.
     
  17. Aug 20, 2013 #697 of 2911
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    I know I am but I am a Big Ten fan.

    Are you making a point I am not seeing?
     
  18. Aug 20, 2013 #698 of 2911
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    One point you apparently missed is I was not responding to you when I posted that. Go take a look-see...


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  19. Aug 20, 2013 #699 of 2911
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    You admit that you pay for channels that you don't want as does all of us. You would only pay $.05-$.10 for the PAC 12 Net since you live outside its footprint, not $.24.
    I would watch Fox Soccer +, but I'm not going to pay an extra $14.95 for it. That's proposal D* has made for the PAC-12 Net and that's hogwash.

    Comparing CSN Philly to the PAC-12 Net isn't valid since one is an RSN and the other a national channel. Even if it was carried, the in-footprint charge for CSN Philly would be much higher than what we would pay for it in Cali.
    The majority of sports fans in the West want the PAC 12 Net, only those in the Philly area care whether CSN Philly is carried or not.
     
  20. Aug 20, 2013 #700 of 2911
    damondlt

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    I don't have a choice, which is exactly my point on why I don't want more forced added RSNS.

    If Big Ten was A la carte I would not subscribe to it!
     

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