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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Aug 20, 2013 #721 of 2911
    James Long

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    And yet I read that PAC-12 is confident even without carriage by DirecTV.

    Who needs whom? Apparently both are going to survive without each other. :)
     
  2. Aug 20, 2013 #722 of 2911
    Bambler

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    I have a hypothetical question for everyone here who argues like the world will end if the DirecTV picks up the Pac-12 network.

    What will you do if it does?

    Will you continue to post here about them adding it a year later or turn your attention to another RSN, far, far away from you hoping it will never get added?

    No one bothers to post about the Lakers anymore even though that's costing $4 bucks a month to LA viewers, while empowering their own competition.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2013 #723 of 2911
    damondlt

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    Just another marketing ploy.

    Directv certainly doesn't need pac 12.
     
  4. Aug 20, 2013 #724 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    Who is saying the world will end?
     
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  5. Aug 20, 2013 #725 of 2911
    damondlt

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    I would do nothing. I'm all for Directv adding the channel. But I'm also all for getting the best price that's fair and if it happened great, at least I know Directv took a stand.
    If it gets added it should go in the RSN section in the sports pack, or stay in market otherwise and LA can pay $4 RSN fee and leave my $3 RSN fee alone.
    Ill worry about my RSNs and everyone else can worry about theirs.
     
  6. Aug 20, 2013 #726 of 2911
    pdxBeav

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    Yes.

    Of those 40+ carriers, how many have most of their subscribers outside of the PAC-12 region? Most of those 40+ carriers are small-time operations which need to do anything they can to compete with the big boys.
     
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  7. Aug 21, 2013 #727 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    And how many are paying peanuts as they are out of market?? Does the 40 or so include multiple Comcasts? Is there a list?
     
  8. Aug 21, 2013 #728 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Bingo! :)
     
  9. Aug 21, 2013 #729 of 2911
    pdxBeav

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    tgard

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    A disturbing wrinkle to all this is that Warren Buffet has recently invested in Dish TV and might be banking on their chance to attain the NFL Ticket next year when the D* contract expires.

    When he starts selling off his massive amount of D* stock it will officially be time to worry.
     
  11. Aug 21, 2013 #731 of 2911
    fleckrj

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    When DirecTV gets the PAC 12 network, I will not do anything. If I cannot sleep, I might even watch a game. I do not object to DirecTV picking up the network at a price that DirecTV feels makes good business sense for them. The only thing I object to is the PAC 12's childish advertisment campaign and press releasees directed against DirecTV. That money could be better spent elsewhere. I, and most of the other 20 million DirecTV customers, are not going to leave DirecTV regardless of whether DirecTV carries the PAC 12 network.

    The standoff is a business decision on both sides pure and simple. The PAC 12 has a product, but DirecTV feels the product is not worth what the PAC 12 is asking for it. I happen to agree with DirecTV on this one. It is not like this is the BIG 12 or the SEC. The PAC 12 has a large regional following, but it does not generate the national following that the Big 10 or SEC does. The PAC 12 network was designed by and for regional providers, and DirecTV is not a regional provider.

    Neither side will budge for now, Eventually, one of them will, but Larry Scott's actions at this time are nothing but devisive. He needs to either make the package more attractive to DirecTV or shut up. Badmouthing DirecTV is not going to bring in more money for the PAC 12.
     
  12. Aug 21, 2013 #732 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    As I said before, cable is local. Even Comcast is run locally. The value of a local channel to a local system is higher than to a national system like Dish or Directv. There is exactly one system analogous to Directv and that is Dish. Not 40+.
     
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    Yes, I think I got a bill credit!
     
  14. Aug 21, 2013 #734 of 2911
    WebTraveler

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    Another poster gave you the list It probably does include multiple comcast. But as far as I can see most of the major players are listed....except Directv.

    We do know that the farther east you go not all systems carry the network, but more and more are coming on line. Comcast just added a ton of systems in the midwest.

    Fact remains that Directv really is the one major holdout. Directv made a business decision....but I do need to ask you this - by not having the Pac 12 is your bill any cheaper? I do not believe so. What I think is that the NFL contract is a major cash drain on Directv and its preventing them from other opportunities. They are paying through the nose for it and I think that now its starting to crack. While Directv has more subs, I wonder how that number would impact if NFL was gone.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2013 #735 of 2911
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    More and more cable is being run outside the region. Back in the day TCI cable was locally owned and you could walk into their offices and run into the movers and shakers. Then they sold out to ATT and then Comcast. Comcast keeps consolidating its regions and eliminating the local offices; they contract out the personnel. Its still an evolving business as any profit growth is still likely to come from savings from consolidation. You call and used to get a local person on the phone...today who knows where that call goes to. It's changing. Just like the phone company....back in the day these folks lived among us....now gosh who knows.
     
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    Bring some research with you next time and we'll talk more about it. :roundandr


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  17. Aug 21, 2013 #737 of 2911
    JohnBoy

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    WebTraveler Quote;
    "While Directv has more subs, I wonder how that number would impact if NFL was gone."

    I believe if Directv loses the NFL ST they could easily lose hundreds upon thousands of subscribers,possibly in the millions as well.

    I signed up mainly for ST and I follow where the Ticket goes and I believe there are many who think like me as well.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2013 #738 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Why worry? It doesn't really matter why he buys—or sells— stock to the services Dish offers.
     
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    Laxguy

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    sigma1914

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    ST gets about 2 million subs from the last numbers I read. So, worst case... 2 million gone. They'd save $1 billion from not paying the NFL, that'd allow many channel additions like P12.
     
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