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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Aug 21, 2013 #741 of 2911
    JohnBoy

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    If D* loses Sunday Ticket,what will they use to bait in new subscribers like they have been doing for the past decades.

    Come join Directv and we will give you a Free Genie and Free Pac 12 Network for 12 months.
     
  2. Aug 21, 2013 #742 of 2911
    pdxBeav

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    Exactly my point. :righton:
     
  3. Aug 21, 2013 #743 of 2911
    tgard

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    I got off topic but I was just implying that anyone upping for two years before the possible NFLST departure from DIRECTV would be out of some dough if they had to change providers to attain it again. Buffet's sale of DIRECTV stock may signal an insider knowledge of the situation,(not that he would ever do anything illegal) however, I would hope that any insider knowledge of the NFLST situation will be reported here first.

    Dish owners can only gain at this point. As it has been said many times if DIRECTV loses NFLST there will be a mass exodus of customers while currently the availability of NFL Network & Redzone elsewhere is doing that already. DIRECTV will go back to being what it started as, a way for people without access to cable or antenna(defunct) to watch TV.
     
  4. Aug 21, 2013 #744 of 2911
    Contra

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    Looks like ATT U-verse just cut a deal with the Pac-12 Net. Not official but is looking like it will be announced soon.

    Am hopeful this will convince D* to get on board too.... but no guarantee obviously. I know D* is trying to make a point about rising programming costs, but they're starting to look silly now. If other operators are taking the same deal, it's hard for D* to say, well, sorry but Pac-12 Net is just too expensive for us.

    Then again, I guess D* can say and do anything they want....

    http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2013/8/16/4630134/pac-12-networks-will-be-31on-u-verse-channels-1759-1760-and-1761-in
     
  5. Aug 21, 2013 #745 of 2911
    Mike Bertelson

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    I just deleted a few posts (you know who you are) because they were ignoring my warning to keep it civil and not make it personal.

    If you can't figure out how to reply to a post without the personal attacks then just quit reading forums...this is directed at everyone and not the deleted posts in particular.

    This thread gets a little more latitude than most but you all will keep it civil.

    Discuss the topic and not each other, be respectful, or don’t post at all.

    Mike
     
  6. Aug 21, 2013 #746 of 2911
    JohnBoy

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    Alot of noise for a channel that most of its teams will be on ESPN,ABC,FOX,FOX S1,FX in marquee matchups.

    Directv ,offer the Pac 12 the same rate that Uverse and Dish offered ,not a penny more or less.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2013 #747 of 2911
    Sandra

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    This is what I don't understand. It seems like the price point has been established...why does DirecTV not agree to the same price? Or does Pac-12 want DirecTV to pay more?


    Sandra
     
  8. Aug 21, 2013 #748 of 2911
    WebTraveler

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    Maybe so, but the BIG providers are on board, just not Directv.

    The big cable providers are slowly expanding the reach of Pac 12 to more and more systems.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2013 #749 of 2911
    WebTraveler

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    Directv wants a discount, we guess.

    OR Directv is just so upside down w/NFL they may really not have the cash. Remember, Directv and it's CEO Mike White keeps asking for a merger through the media with Dish. Maybe Directv is teetering
     
  10. Aug 21, 2013 #750 of 2911
    gpg

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    If one looks at Directv's last financial release, "teetering" is hardly the word that comes to mind.
    http://investor.directv.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=781971
     
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  11. Aug 21, 2013 #751 of 2911
    mrdobolina

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    Every time I read about the "40+ carriers" I wince. Bob's Cable Co. in Riley, Oregon doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of this discussion, IMO. Should PAC12 be going after YouTube channels with 100,000 "subscribers"??? Obviously a joke, but I think most get what I'm saying.
     
  12. Aug 21, 2013 #752 of 2911
    mrdobolina

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    And this.
     
  13. Aug 21, 2013 #753 of 2911
    Contra

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    DirecTV is in excellent financial shape. They are loaded with cash and have been buying back stock for quite a while. Teetering? Not at all.

    Their CEO is an east coast guy, works out of NY, graduated from Boston College and Johns Hopkins. He has been a guest in Kraft's private suite for Patriot NFL games, so it's not that he isn't a sports fan. But I would guess he could care less about the west coast college teams. And since he's the one who calls the shots, any agreement will have to go through him.
     
  14. Aug 21, 2013 #754 of 2911
    Bambler

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    He should relocate out of LA and move to Boston or somewhere on the east coast. Way more TV viewers there anyways. Smarter to be located where most of their customers live.
     
  15. Aug 21, 2013 #755 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Well, dang! If he's a JHU grad, we should be having a lot more lacrosse!!

    And DIRECTV® is in very decent financial shape, and it doesn't appear that Mike White is asking for a merger, but responding to questions about a possible merger.
     
  16. Aug 21, 2013 #756 of 2911
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    maybe, maybe not. pay TV providers are losing customers (all of them) and getting crunched between what the TV channels want to charge and what Directv (and other providers) can charge the customer for. The margins are getting thinner and thinner. Directv's growth, if any is in South America.

    Mr. White keeps calling for a merger. Yet Mr. Ergen is not so quick to do so...and instead is seeking out acquisitions outside of the satelite TV arena.
     
  17. Aug 21, 2013 #757 of 2911
    pdxBeav

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    Why does it matter what others pay? If other carriers paid $10 per subscriber does that mean DirecTV should too? Agreed, the price point has been set and some providers are ok with it and some aren't. Nothing wrong with that. Each business is different.
     
  18. Aug 21, 2013 #758 of 2911
    sum_random_dork

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    I want to clarify the "small cable co's" you are talking about are part of a larger organization that negotiates deals on their behalf. There are some fairly large members in this group including Suddenlink. If I remember correctly I had read there were upwards of 40 cable companies that were members of this organization. It was important for the Pac 12 to sign this group up because they brought Suddenlink, Wave Broadband, and Astound. Those 3 providers have a presence in the Pac 12 footprint. And has been pointed out before Pac 12 did sign deals with the #1 provider Comcast, #3 Dish Network, and #4 TWC. I wouldn't classify those as "small companies."
     
  19. Aug 21, 2013 #759 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    You will, as soon as JHU becomes a member of the Big Ten!
     
  20. Aug 21, 2013 #760 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    As for Comcast, I know you are wrong about the nationalization. They are sharing systems and technology but they are still run as local businesses. It frustrates some within Comcast.

    Besides, cable, no matter where it is run from, is still a localized business. The infrastructure dictates that.

    You keep ignoring the differences between cable and satellite. When you understand them, you will understand better the impasse we are discussing.
     

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