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Pac-12 Networks confident, even without DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Athlon646464, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Jul 15, 2013 #121 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Winters,...
    I am certain DIRECTV is aware of all sides of the equation, and has experts in house to run all manner of calculations.

    Yet you've not even ball parked the exodus you expect.....
     
  2. Jul 15, 2013 #122 of 2911
    Eksynyt

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    Large enough that DirecTV will have to either add the channels, or give up on being called the sports leader.
     
  3. Jul 15, 2013 #123 of 2911
    tonyd79

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    FS1 is a changing channel, not a new channel. This is FUD.
     
  4. Jul 15, 2013 #124 of 2911
    pdxBeav

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    I'm a huge PAC-12 and Blazers fan. I switched FROM Frontier which carries both of these channels. I don't think your number will be large enough to move the pendulum. The only way to try to control programming costs is for the distributors to take a stand and not give in to the unrealistic demands by the programmers.
     
  5. Jul 15, 2013 #125 of 2911
    Mike Bertelson

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    Actually, after a couple of minutes searching, it seems FS1 could be an issue for DIRECTV.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-22/cable-companies-chafe-as-low-rated-channels-change-brand-names.html

    Especially since it seems Fox wants more money to carry FS1.

    http://www.fiercecable.com/story/report-fox-charging-affiliates-80-cents-monthly-fs1/2013-07-15

    This article says they haven't yet signed with DIRECTV so it's certainly not a done deal.

    It certainly doesn't rise to level of FUD. However, since you didn't research before calling someone's post FUD, one could argue your post is FUD. I wouldn't but the argument could be made. I'm just sayin' :)

    Mike
     
  6. Jul 15, 2013 #126 of 2911
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    inkahauts

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    I've seen nothing saying the fs1 will have exclusive rights to show any college football games form the pac12 this year. Can you tell me where I can find that info?
     
  8. Jul 15, 2013 #128 of 2911
    tjguitar

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    Laxguy

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    Wow! Facts; very nice.
    My own desire for Pac12 has just receded a notch or two.
     
  10. Jul 15, 2013 #130 of 2911
    TheRatPatrol

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    The problem with this is that some of the big providers also own RSN's, Cablevision, Comcast, Directv and Time Warner Cable. Unless they all can agree that sports needs its own tier, I don't see it happening.
     
  11. Jul 16, 2013 #131 of 2911
    fleckrj

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    Real college football fans will be happy as long as the SEC channel is carried, but that does not start until August of 2014. ;)
     
  12. Jul 16, 2013 #132 of 2911
    sum_random_dork

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    FOX is moving the games that were on FX last year to FS,1 plus they have added more games to their mix with their more recent contracts. So many Pac 12 and Big 12 games that were on FX last year will be shown on FS1 this year.

    That is why you will probably see more frustration from Pac12 fans, if DirecTV doesn't have a deal in place for FS1 plus no Pac12 network many Pac12 games will not be seen by fans.
     
  13. Jul 16, 2013 #133 of 2911
    inkahauts

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    Thanks. You are right. I hadn't really looked,but I see it everywhere now.

    Still, I say hold the line and do give away the far,to get any of these channels. It just ticks me off that they keep adding channels and charging way more for the same exact content that I actually care about.
     
  14. Jul 16, 2013 #134 of 2911
    tjguitar

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    Also, FOX broadcast is only airing 1 game per week instead of 2, so they are moving 1/2 th games from FOX to FS1 to beef up fs1's content.
     
  15. Jul 17, 2013 #135 of 2911
    makaiguy

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    Dancing around the issue? :)
     
  16. Jul 17, 2013 #136 of 2911
    Mike Bertelson

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    I don't know what you're talking about. :grin:

    Well, okay, it's fixed. :D

    Mike
     
  17. Jul 17, 2013 #137 of 2911
    Michael H..

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    Chimed in once last year on the subject of no PAC12 on DirecTV, and I'm now doing it this year.
    15 of the 35 football games which will appear on the PAC12 network have been set, the remaining 20 will be determined as the season approaches/progresses.
    The last 2 of those 15 games are conference games, UC@UO and UO@CU.

    The 1st 13 games involve a conference opponent versus a non-conference foe (listed), in order:

    1) Northern AZ
    2) Eastern WA
    3) Nevada
    4) CA St Sacramento
    5) Weber St
    6) Portland St
    7) Central AR
    8) Hawaii
    9) CA St San Jose
    10) CA St Fresno
    11) TX San Antonio
    12) Boston College
    13) Southern UT

    Doesn't exactly get me excited...

    A number of other inter-conference games, have already been optioned off to the major networks, including:

    1) Boise St
    2) Ohio St
    3) Wisconsin
    4/5/6) Notre Dame (ASU, USC & Stanford)

    So the only games I would have likely tuned into.... I can watch... whether I've got the PAC12 network or NOT.

    In addition, the matchup of the two best teams from a year ago, and the conference championship game have already been optioned off to the major networks as well.

    1) UO@Stanford
    2) PAC12 Championship

    When the dust settles, as with last season, the conference games that do appear on the PAC12 network, will "probably" NOT be ones that I would label "can't miss."
    I can't recall last season scrambling around the last minute to find an establishment televising a Bruin, or any other conference member, game that prompted me to think "I'm mad at DirecTV, and I'm taking my business elsewhere."

    I've got a (LA area) friend who's little girl is a (PAC12 team) scholarship athlete.
    He's asked... and I've told him, that DirecTV is not for him to be able to catch her on TV for games that are not at UCLA or USC.
    If I were in his situation (which I'm NOT), no PAC12 on DirecTV would be a big deal.
    But like a good number of PAC12 alum/fan, we appreciate being able to view the occasional "non-revenue" sport, including the "Title IX's".
    But, even still, when a successful run will grab our attention... e.g., UCLA baseball, the games in Omaha are televised on the major networks, not the PAC12, ... as is the case with men's/women's softball, volleyball, H2O polo,...

    If DirecTV carried the PAC12, as it is, I would find something to watch, but not being able to watch the PAC12 programming which would appear on DirecTV does not even register a blip on my "dump DirecTV" meter.

    To: the PAC12 Network

    The product you've been trying to sell is the near empty basket containing the picked-over, over-ripe fruit that no one wants, even for free.
    Worse.... you've also been trying to make us take 7 of these baskets, 6 regional selection baskets in addition to the main conference basket.
    Not only is DirecTV aware of this, this is apparent to their viewers... part of the reason there has been no mass exodus.
    Subscribers who felt strongly about this, have probably already voted with their feet.
    I just don't think there are enough left to help you negotiate with DirecTV, even if they could...
     
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  18. Jul 17, 2013 #138 of 2911
    Laxguy

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    Winters,...
    I appreciate your candor and reasoning. The number of irate posters over the past year can be counted on one hand. Saber rattling has been loud, even though the scabbards are empty, save for dropping the best TV provider, DIRECTV®.
     
  19. Jul 17, 2013 #139 of 2911
    inkahauts

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    I'm ticked as heck that the PAC12 isn't on Directv, I will miss games I want to watch unless I get them in another way. However, I don't blame Directv at all, I blame the PAC12.
     
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  20. Jul 18, 2013 #140 of 2911
    sum_random_dork

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    RE: the games on Pac12 Network....a couple of the games already picked could be big games. I'd suggest you read up on David Fales the QB at SJSU. Might possibly the best QB in the country, yet most people haven't heard of him. Has been mentioned as a top 5-10 pick in the NFL draft and possibly the most NFL ready QB this year.

    As for the games most people "don't want to watch" that is easy to say if it's not the team you follow. As Scott Van Pelt was talking about last week when you talk about teams it's always "My team is the best because_______, then your team is the best because__________, and the 3rd best team is one two sides can agree on." While some people may not be a fan of Cal, Wash St, or Utah there are still many fans/alumni that are and would love to watch those games. Everyone wants to say how great the SEC is, but take away Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Texas A&M, and this year South Carolina are there that many SEC games people would be wanting to watch? Probably not the mass audience but fans of those other schools sure do. (not trying to troll anyone here just pointing out each league has its marquee teams/players and then the others that fill in)

    Sports is about passion, and there are many fans out there that feel strong passion towards their given school no matter what conference they are in. You just want to watch any game they are in.

    Also....remember this year Cal Women's Swimming will have Missy Franklin swimming for them. I would guess there are many people that would tune in to watch her swim and the Pac 12 will be publicizing her meets w/out a doubt. She is one of the biggest names now in women's sports.

    I am not going to blame one side or the other, just work out a deal. I have heard info from people pretty well connected with DirecTV and I have heard from those pretty well connected at The Pac12. As with any argument there are two sides.......then there is the truth somewhere in the middle. You can choose which side you want to believe but in the end both sides are out to draw the biggest audience possible and make the most money they can on contracts (be it with a provider or an end customer)

    One good note....has anyone else noticed how quiet both sides have been as of late? I am hoping that's a good sign they both decided to stop the public bickering and try to work something out.
     

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