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People that had Direct and switched to Dish Please!

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by MadScientist, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. inazsully

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    A good comparison can be seen in the world of sports. When your contract expires you become a free agent. Simple concept but true. As a free agent I can stay where I am or go somewhere else. Most of us would prefer to stay with the home team and may even allow for a home team discount. For me that home team discount would be the first year of my new contract at half price and no need free new equipment. Not as good as the competing offer but because I like where I'm at I'll accept the home teams offer. Now if I'm not in demand then they will dump me in a heart beat. That's why pro sports players have representatives. Because they know it's not a matter of loyalty, it's just business. Show me the money!
     
  2. Inkosaurus

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    Im well aware of this, I unlike probably the majority of this forum have MET Charlie.
    And trust me if you have ever met the man, had lunch with him and have seen the car he drives you would know he is easily the biggest penny pincher you will ever meet.

    @Inazsully, that would be a great comparison if the Dish's and DTV's of the world actually cared to work in that manner.
    Fact of the matter is that they dont and they wont.

    In there eyes free receiver upgrades with two year contracts is more then enough to hopefully keep somebody around. And guess what? For the majority of the customer base it is.
     
  3. Jhon69

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    Me Too!;) No Loyalty!:lol:


    Guess he watched that Jerry McGuire movie too much and now all he says is"Show me the MONEY"!.;):D

    I can't blame him,if he wants to change often who are we to say No? The companies made the rules that way so you could leave; if you want to to save money and the company can't offer what he wants? I say go for it!:eek2::D
     
  4. Jhon69

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    Exactamundo! I didn't read your post earlier and I still said the same thing.:lol:

    The problem arises when people take things personal,it's nothing personal just good business.:)
     
  5. archer75

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    Correct. It's not a blanket statement. I said dish is very much cheaper for ME and the channels I care about. Which is how I compare services. The channels I care about. Which I stated in my post.
     
  6. mdavej

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    I don't fault anyone for switching every 2 years to save money and get the latest equipment. The system encourages that.

    But all providers don't have the same content. So every time you switch you lose significant content. When my provider has the content I want and no one else does, switching away from that provider to save a couple of bucks short term makes no sense. I'd still be paying a lot of money for something I don't even want, albeit at the new sub discount.
     
  7. inazsully

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    Now there ya go. If Dish offered all the content I wanted I'd never switch. Actually, if they added HD RSN's 24/7, Big Ten HD, ESPN News HD, Versus HD, all included in the 200 package I'd be their slave for life. Probably.
     
  8. James Long

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    In effect, yes. When I was hired for each job a price was set ... do the work and this is how much we'll pay you. In nearly every job I've had the work increased over time and the pay did not increase as much. My last job never kept up with inflation (the last raise was less than half the inflation rate for the period involved) and then awarded all of their employees a pay cut that put us back years before the last raise.

    I'd love to have a job that kept up with inflation - otherwise employers are getting a discount each year of continued service.
     
  9. Lazy Senior

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    Altho I do not have a job any longer (Lazy Senior=Retired=Poor=Pinching Pennies) I agree 100%.

    I will wager that Charlie E. has kept up with inflation thanks to the constant increases in our Dish prices and all the people that stay longer than 2 years. :)
     
  10. Inkosaurus

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    Ehh kinda when you make it to a salary pay position at Dish its not so great (but thats generally the case at most places anyway).
    The front line guys can potentially get paid really well though, they get there 80 hours, tons of available over time and then potential 40% pay bonus's based on there stats at work that applies to there over time as well as the other 80 hours as well each pay period.
    I know a few agents who consistently got bigger checks then there supervisors at the site i worked at.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    In my version of the analogy, though...

    Dish has pay TV channels you want... so you either pay for them, go elsewhere and pay someone else, or do without.

    FYI, I don't fault anyone for asking for a deal or trying to negotiate a freebie. Do it! Seriously, I would too... but I just don't get the expectations or anger some folk have at not getting freebies or discounts every time their contract is up.

    I ask, and I love, special stuff... but my actual expectations are to pay normal price for service and I decide whether to stay or not based on whether or not I can afford it and whether or not I feel it is still worth what they are asking.
     
  12. inazsully

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    I understand your analogy but the OC states "Dish really doesn't care if I stay or go". We all agree that he is correct. The problem for me is understanding why Dish, or Directv doesn't seem to care when it clearly is cost effective to retain current departing subs by offering them the first year at half price, like they do for new subs, seems rather logical. I've read no opinion in this thread to change my thinking. It's not like they have to make it a blanket offer to all subs hitting the 2 year mark. Only to those wanting to switch for Directv's similar offer.
     
  13. Jim5506

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    Why would Dish and DirecTV work against their own self interests?

    I tend to disagree that they loose more by people switching than it costs to retain said customer.

    Neither company is ignorant of their costs and all we have here is speculation.

    I would bet they have considered and weighed the cost of jumpers vs the cost to retain them and have concluded that it is in their own self-interest to allow such unstable customers to go their way and spend their limited money elsewhere.

    It may take more than two years to fully pay off the cost of a new customer, but it may cost even more to extend that payoff and extend unnecessary goodies to such people who just demand more and more.

    I say if you think you know more about their business than Dish or DirecTV, you should start your own satellite company and put the other two out of business.
     
  14. Lazy Senior

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    Assume this is True. Why in the world do they continue to pursue previous customers and re-sign "unstable" customers to another 2 year term along with all new customer promos.

    In Directv promos the word switch is used repeatedly. Directv has been pursuing me for almost 2 years to "switch". They started a month after I canceled them and went to Dish. They even offered me "up to $200" towards paying off my Dish ETF.

    Does this make sense? It would have been much cheaper for them to just give me another HDDVR (which I had asked for) and get me in another 2 year contract.

    Certainly I do not know enough to start a TV satellite company. However I AM smart enough to be a wise consumer and spend my "limited $$" wisely.

    By the way my "limited money" with Dish is over $2500 in a 2 year contract. :eek2:
     
  15. inazsully

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    You're right Jim, it is all speculation. And your last sentence is just ignorant.
     
  16. James Long

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    OK, lets take it down a notch or 10. People are entitled to their opinions. Everyone, please try to express them without getting personal.
     
  17. wahooq

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    i think it would be awesome if i could call Chevrolet and demand a newer truck for less money every two years
     
  18. Inkosaurus

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    Just going to save you a head ache if you ever decide to take up DTV on this offer.
    Its a shady sales gimmick by the sales agent at best, DTV does have a promotion where they will buy out your ETF from Dish on the condition that you can provide DTV a final statement that says "Early Termination Fee", which is something Dish Network does not provide. The final bill doesnt say anything about the ETF except for its value and because of this unless you do some serious arguing and escalating with DTV representatives you will never see that check that buys out your ETF.
     
  19. Lazy Senior

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    This is hardly a fair comparison to the Satellite Business. When you finish paying for a truck, you have something of value - the truck.

    When you finish paying off a DTV/Dish 2 year contract you have - - NOTHING.

    However FWIW, I constantly get mailings from Toyota and Chevrolet, 2 companies I have bought vehicles from. These mailings give me all kinds of offers. From $5000 rebates on the purchase of a new car to discounted maintenance services. Sound Familiar?
     
  20. Lazy Senior

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    Good to know and shady indeed. Another shady tactic that DirectTV has, is allowing you to upgrade packages/premium channels on their website. However to delete premiums or downgrade packages they force you to call a CSR on the telephone.

    Kudos to Dish for not doing this. Dish allows you to change anything on the website, downgrade or upgrade.
     

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