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Police: 13 dead; 58 injured in Colorado theater shooting

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Unknown, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. SayWhat?

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

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    Not necessarily.
     
  2. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Only if you mean they were both created by men on earth. One was a set of laws to govern a country by. The other was something made up by a guy named "Moses" to scare people.
     
  3. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but those false convictions weren't the result of DNA testing. It was DNA testing that cleared them up though.
     
  4. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    I was trying to gently nudge this out of the religious realm conversation wise for this forum and I think it has.
     
  5. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    :lol: Yeah, necessarily. You may want to read up on DNA evidence.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    Yeah, probably a smart idea. I should do the same.
     
  7. James Long

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    We can read up on DNA evidence in another 20-30 years ... when people are as amazed we ever used it as evidence as we are about the use of eye witness testimony (and "lie detectors" and other failed methods).

    It is apparently the best method we have today ... but it isn't fool proof. Errors in collecting and preserving DNA have already caused controversy.
     
  8. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Just for consideration. Woman found dead in cabin in woods. Suspect arrested leaving woods carrying glock in his pants. Suspects DNA all over victim, all over the cabin.

    Is the suspect guilty of murder?

    What about the ex-husband who stuck his glock through the open window without leaving any DNA and shot her, then left the scene and wasnt detected?
     
  9. SayWhat?

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    No, not necessarily. It can mean that sample donor was there, but it doesn't prove exactly when and it doesn't prove they are the one who committed the crime. There's also a possibility the sample could have been planted. It's not that hard to get a few skin cells or even a blood sample from someone if you really want to frame them.


    And see Post 244 for how Multi-Quote works.
     
  10. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

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    I suggest this thread has run it's course

    Can I get a second on its closing?
     
  11. SayWhat?

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    I'm not even convinced we should be using DNA or lack thereof to exonerate without other factors.
     
  12. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    It might get back to "topic" ... but this is the OT so some drift is expected (within bounds).

    For example: Religious and political discussion - let's call that done for the remainder of the thread.
     
  13. SayWhat?

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    There's a lot more to be said. No one has commented much on the apartment or some of the findings that have been released so far. Like the Batman poster.

    Also, some other information like some on-line profiles. And some stories from the jail.

    First court appearance Monday should be a circus.
     
  14. Nick

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    The...
    Grammarian

    As in, "I am the grammarian about whom your mother warned you."
     
  15. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Yea, that "Will you visit me in Prison?" at the top of his adult dating site profile is rather prophetic.
    Court appearance wont be anything. District courts can only handle Misdemeanors. They will enter an automatic non-guilty plea, and remand the case to Circuit court.
     
  16. SayWhat?

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    The ex-husbands DNA would be there too, near the window. They could then compare his glock to the other guys glock and rule the other guy out. They could also tell who's glock was more recently fired.
     
  18. RunnerFL

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    Again, you can determine time based on the DNA sample. As for planted DNA that DNA would be older than the crime itself and ruled out.

    1. You don't use it, why should I? Pot, meet kettle...

    2. You can't multiquote within the same posting.

    3. If you could keep up you wouldn't need to keep requesting people, no wait only I, use multiquote.

    4. Don't tell me how to post, I don't tell you.
     
  19. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Second
     
  20. SayWhat?

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    No they can't. Ballistics tests don't work that way.



    Just did.
     

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