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Police: 13 dead; 58 injured in Colorado theater shooting

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Unknown, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. Jul 20, 2012 #41 of 714
    Rich

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    NYC's Police Commissioner, Ray Kelly, just announced the shooter was "deranged". Major understatement.

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  2. Jul 20, 2012 #42 of 714
    MysteryMan

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    Yes, and Sharon Tate would be 69 if not for him.
     
  3. Jul 20, 2012 #43 of 714
    Cholly

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    I would feel compelled to say "lighten up" if this were not aa horrific and tragic situation. Knee jerk reactions to tragedies are counterproductive
    This is not a story that should invoke a lot of frenzied talk about the right to bear arms, whether by proponents or opponents.
     
  4. Jul 20, 2012 #44 of 714
    Rich

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    I'm quite surprised that he's made it this far. I would have thought he would have gone the way Dahmer went by now.

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  5. Jul 20, 2012 #45 of 714
    SayWhat?

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    So, someone who isn't even a doctor can do a medical diagnosis from over a 1,000 miles away without ever speaking to the person?
     
  6. Jul 20, 2012 #46 of 714
    MysteryMan

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    Yes considering he killed 12 and wounded 59. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jul 20, 2012 #47 of 714
    AntAltMike

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    You may have missed out on few details... :rolleyes:
     
  8. Jul 20, 2012 #48 of 714
    AntAltMike

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    Callahan: "...when an adult-male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard, that's my policy."

    Mayor: "Intent? How did you establish that?"

    Callahan: "When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross."
     
  9. Jul 20, 2012 #49 of 714
    Stewart Vernon

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    Knee-jerk reaction to tragedies like this are part of what will make the next tragedy possible, perhaps inevitable.

    People truly are our own worst enemy.
     
  10. Jul 20, 2012 #50 of 714
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    Armed lunatics in body armor? Nothing new really, just a tragically high body count this time. Escalation for armed citizens is inevitable. Colorado is a gun friendly state, I'm really surprised no one was packing. I never thought to carry in a theater but I guess evil is where people are...
    Mental condition or no, this is an evil man who should be put down. Attacking fans of vigilante justice on the world's stage, probably won't even make it to court.
     
  11. Jul 20, 2012 #51 of 714
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    One thing about this horrific tragedy still sticks in my craw - why in the world was a 3 month old baby even out at a midnight movie showing?
     
  12. Jul 20, 2012 #52 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    He's been isolated for nearly his whole prison term and not in general population. Supposedly there's no one even in the same wing as him in his current prison. No one has been able to get to him, not to mention most prisoners fear him.
     
  13. Jul 20, 2012 #53 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    Agreed
     
  14. Jul 20, 2012 #54 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    No amount of gun control would have stopped this. He passed background checks, has no sordid past, no record, etc. He only had 1 speeding ticket.

    There were no signs, unless you knew he was stockpiling armor and whatever is apartment is rigged with. Regulating body armor purchases do not fall under "gun control".
     
  15. Jul 20, 2012 #55 of 714
    James Long

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    Hopefully this thread can continue without politics.

    The second gunman at the shooting of Gabby Giffords got it right. He considered pulling out his weapon and attempting to take down the shooter ... but how does the third gunman know that the second gunman isn't part of the crime? How does the fourth gunman know the first three are not working together? Should the good guys all wear white hats (until the bad guys start wearing them).

    In a darkened smoke filled theater with people running for their lives it would not be a good idea to discharge a weapon unless one was absolutely sure of their target and their ability to hit it and NOTHING else.

    A shooting like this will always wake up the anti-gun portion of America ... but a "friendly fire" killing of an innocent caught in the crossfire would ensure that the anti-gun folks would never sleep again until only criminals (and maybe cops) had guns.
     
  16. Jul 20, 2012 #56 of 714
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    That was the "idea", but it has been extended to cases where you feel threatened and stores, etc.
    trayvon martin was shot for ....

    Convenience Stores are shooting someone running out with a 12pack of beer,
    etc.
     
  17. Jul 20, 2012 #57 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    Yeah, very true. Part of good gun control however is showing restraint. Anyone who's taken courses on gun control/ownership and responsibilities would know you don't immediately just draw your gun and start shooting. You assess the situation first.
     
  18. Jul 20, 2012 #58 of 714
    Rich

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    That does seem a bit draconian, losing a life over a few cans of beer.

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  19. Jul 20, 2012 #59 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    The "Stand Your Ground" law down here isn't the free ticket to shoot anyone that everyone seems to think it is. You still go before a court and have to prove your life was in danger. Things like shooting someone in the back, which would happen in the case of a convenience store clerk shooting someone for running out while stealing beer, don't get covered by "Stand Your Ground" because clearly the person was running away and the shooter's life wasn't in danger. Cases like that result in "Stand Your Ground" being thrown out and charges being filed against the shooter. It's not like the South Park episode where all you have to do is yell "It's coming straight for us".
     
  20. Jul 20, 2012 #60 of 714
    Rich

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    Here's the answer. Link.

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