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Police: 13 dead; 58 injured in Colorado theater shooting

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  1. Jul 20, 2012 #61 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    Another sign that he was deranged... The Joker's hair is green, not red.
     
  2. Jul 20, 2012 #62 of 714
    Rich

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    All I know about it is what I read in the NY Daily News. There was so much coverage each day for a while that I got tired of reading it. So, yeah, I probably did miss a few details. Seemed to boil down to the kid seeming to be threatening the shooter and the shooter (Zimmerman?), seeing the kid in the hoodie shot because he felt threatened.

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  3. Jul 20, 2012 #63 of 714
    Rich

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    Yup, I was aware of that. I've followed the story for years after reading Helter Skelter. I know he's not in GenPop, but you'd think someone would have gotten to him by now. They got to Dahmer pretty quickly.

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  4. Jul 20, 2012 #64 of 714
    Stewart Vernon

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    Yep.

    Ask yourself which is worse...

    A guy with a mental problem takes a gun and kills innocent people and nobody could have predicted it would happen.

    OR

    A regular guy with a gun shoots an innocent bystander while trying to kill the guy with the mental problem.

    OR

    Another regular guy shoots that first regular guy because he thinks he is in league with the guy with the mental problem.

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    Crazy and mean people will find a way to be violent and break laws. Try as we might, some bad stuff is going to happen.

    But the first time a regular Joe with a handgun for self-defense kills an innocent person... *That* will be all the ammunition (pun intended) that the anti-gun crowd will need. Once regular non-criminals are accidentally killing people, that's the death-knell for the right to bear arms.
     
  5. Jul 20, 2012 #65 of 714
    Stewart Vernon

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    Also... the Joker is a fictional character!

    :D
     
  6. Jul 20, 2012 #66 of 714
    veryoldschool

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    These are state laws, so they vary by state.
     
  7. Jul 20, 2012 #67 of 714
    Rich

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    So many times I've read about atrocities where the killer's neighbors can't believe it. As this plays out, I guess we'll see the same thing again. Especially with him not having any criminal record.

    But, someone must have noticed that the guy was a bit off the wall.

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  8. Jul 20, 2012 #68 of 714
    dpeters11

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    This is an interesting story

    http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secret-online-weapons-store-thatll-sell-anyone-anything?tag=weapons

    Though I'm not sure which is more interesting, the site, or the ATFs response.
     
  9. Jul 20, 2012 #69 of 714
    Christopher Gould

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    The problem is the media doesn't cover a story when a gun saves lives.
     
  10. Jul 20, 2012 #70 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    That was my point though. He's so isolated no one can get to him.
     
  11. Jul 20, 2012 #71 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    True but you were discussing Florida's version of the law. Also Florida's version is the most lenient of them all and even down here it's not a kill anyone for anything deal like people think it is. It's not the wild west down here as some would make you think.
     
  12. Jul 20, 2012 #72 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    True, but if he kept to himself like people are saying there would be no one around to see he was off the wall.
     
  13. Jul 20, 2012 #73 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    Sad, but true...
     
  14. Jul 20, 2012 #74 of 714
    veryoldschool

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    I don't think I made the distinction, but was referring to all of them in general.
     
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    Laxguy

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    Probably its mother took it there; I've not seen anyone younger than two years old going to movies on their own.





    I get your point, but it's so minor compared to the rest of the scene. Yeah, some parents have terrible judgement, or none at all.
     
  16. Jul 20, 2012 #76 of 714
    dpeters11

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    He apparently either deleted them or wasn't on any social network sites. He had been a Ph.D student in neuroscience, but as in the process of withdrawing.
     
  17. Jul 20, 2012 #77 of 714
    Rich

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    I know he's isolated. Wouldn't be the first time a guard...

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    Rich

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    "He kept to himself, but seemed like a nice guy." How many times have you seen something like that after an atrocity? It's so hard to judge people.

    Rich
     
  19. Jul 20, 2012 #79 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    Your reply was to Rich's post regarding "the Florida law" then you brought up the Martin/Zimmerman case. That reads as if you were referring to the Florida law.
     
  20. Jul 20, 2012 #80 of 714
    RunnerFL

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    None of those point to someone being a psychopath.
     

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