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Poll: What do you think about ESPN-HD stretch?

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Sonnie Parker, Oct 9, 2003.

  1. Oct 9, 2003 #1 of 18
    Sonnie Parker

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    Informal poll... (if this is allowed)????

    From what I understand (and I hope I'm wrong), ESPN says they are stretching their 4:3 1080i to 16:9 for ESPN-HD because this is what the majority of their viewers want.

    Which do you prefer... stretched or not? And why?

    I prefer it not be stretched. I would rather watch 4:3 with side bars or let my Toshiba do it's own stretching since it's much better than ESPN's stretching. ESPN's stretching takes away from the HD quality IMO.
     
  2. Oct 9, 2003 #2 of 18
    Mark Lamutt

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    I always prefer to do my own stretching.
     
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    Ron Barry

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    I would have to agree with Mark. Already having it stretched does not give you the option of having it at 4x3 for people that perfer it that way.

    I think ESPN basically thinks by stretching it they fool people into thinking that it is really an HD channel when in reality it is mainly an SD upcast channel with a little HD thrown in for fun. They should just own up to it and send it in 4x3 for the non HD stuff.

     
  4. Oct 9, 2003 #4 of 18
    n0qcu

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    ESPN fat vision sux.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2003 #5 of 18
    Mike123abc

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    I would much rather them not stretch them. I could then decide to stretch if I wanted to do so.
     
  6. leestoo

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    I dislike the stretched ESPN. My monitor does a much better job of stretching.
     
  7. ibglowin

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    I absolutely can't stand their stretched mode. It looks terrible. If anyone from ESPN is out there, please let US decide when and how WE want to watch SD programming. Honestly, the 6000 does a much better job of stretching than whatever your giving us.
     
  8. DarrellP

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    The stretch sucks bigtime, but I get around it by putting my projector in 4:3 mode and it unstretches, though I do lose about 1' off the top and bottom of the image.
     
  9. Sonnie Parker

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    Ahhhh.... I finally got to see true HD on ESPN. The NFL Sunday Night game was awesome.
     
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    My pansonic can unstretch it too. Looks pretty good with the stretch removed.
     
  11. Zach2

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    can't you guys just switch just the SD channel of ESPN if you don't want it stretched or want to do it yourself??
     
  12. Sonnie Parker

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    That's exactly what I do. I stretch the SD with my Toshiba RPTV. It would just seem like if ESPN is going to have a dedicated HD channel that they would not try to stretch their signal but offer HD 24/7 on that channel. They could do like CBS-HD and not stretch the commercials. They just have a pitiful stretch mode. Use Toshiba's method if anything.
     
  13. RAD

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    I wonder if it's an ABC corporate directive? Our local ABC station (WLS-DT) which is an O&O 'stretches' their upconvert programming all the time also. I number of us have contacted the stations management and engineer and they refuse to stop the practice, even after NBC, Fox and WGN stopped the practice based on view feedback.
     
  14. Sonnie Parker

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    Maybe if enough people complained to ESPN they would stop stretching.

    This is what they say about stretching:



    I'm not sure which "most consumers" they are speaking of but I haven't found anyone who likes their stretching. A thread over at hometheaterforum.com resulted in everyone stating they would rather ESPN not stretch.

    It doesn't appear they have an e-mail address to voice an opinion on the matter or I do so and know some others who would too.
     
  15. RAD

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    I did a poll over in the AVSFourm and the folks that wanted the stretch had STB's that wouldn't allow them to change the aspect ratio and were worried about burn in.
     
  16. Sonnie Parker

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    Hmmmm.... I missed that poll. What was the end result or last result? Do you have any numbers?

    I can understand those concerned about burn in but would think the number of people against it would be higher... maybe not?
     
  17. RAD

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    It's old, from April of 2002, but here's the link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134873

    Do you want 4:3 or stretched image
    You have already voted on this poll.
    WMAQ-DT 4:3 image 36 20.22%
    WMAQ-DT Stretched image 9 5.06%
    WLS-DT 4:3 image 34 19.10%
    WLS-DT Stretched image 10 5.62%
    WGN-DT 4:3 image 33 18.54%
    WGN-DT Stretched image 12 6.74%
    WTTW-DT 4:3 image 34 19.10%
    WTTW-DT Stretched image 10 5.62%
     
  18. Sonnie Parker

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    Thanks RAD.

    Looks like 4:3 is favorable vs. the stretched which is what I kinda figured.
     

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