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Possibe reason not to expect dual buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mikewolf13, Mar 17, 2006.

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  1. harsh

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    It is unlikely that any of the content on the hard drive is unencrypted.
     
  2. Wolffpack

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    Spare time reading. It is interesting reading compared to speculation on Tivo's patents.
     
  3. CCarncross

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    You have 27 patents?
     
  4. Earl Bonovich

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    Actually... that is part of the problem.
    Each show does have a unique identifier, but there are shows that don't have the Series or Episode identifiers..

    (Those that we can't set at Series recordings for example are missing the Series identifier)...

    As it has been told to me...
    TiVo has built some "tweaks" to over come the lack of those fields, that the R15 doesn't have yet.
     
  5. Boston Fan

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    Just out of curiousity, what did the 'an' stand for in the search box before 'tivo'?
     
  6. Boston Fan

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    I gave it an honest shot. I'm going to stick with speculating :p.
     
  7. walters

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    No, I have 22. But I have 29 pending applications.

    The question regarding "AN": Assignee Name. That's the folks who actually own the patent (in my case, my employer).
     
  8. pentium101

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    I believe that this is only partially correct.

    IIRC, you could only purchase the VOD movie while it was still being offered on the ppv channels. I am quite positive that the saved movie when viewed is never decrypted and stored back onto the drive. IOW, the saved movie would have a short time in which you were able to view it.

    If I am correct, should your current card ever become damaged you would not be able to view the purchased VOD movie using a replacement card without having to purchase the VOD movie again.
     
  9. Wolffpack

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    That would be Assignee Name. As Tivo also purchased some older patents (back from the early 90's) dealing with DVRs.
     
  10. walters

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    Actually, assignee name is the owner at time of issue. So those 27 you get by searching AN/TiVo are the ones they filed. It doesn't show the ones they've aquired ownership to (I don't believe there is any way in the patent database to do that).
     
  11. Wolffpack

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    You sure about that? Some of those Dxxx,xxx numbers have dates back to the 80's and 90's.
     
  12. mikewolf13

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    Perhaps I mispoke when i said buffer. What i meant is that you cannot switch easily between tuners. THe only way, I am aware of, to do this is to actualy switch channels to what is on the other tuner.

    Since a "push" would use the other tuner, they will never allow you to switch easily as you will come across programming you need to pay for.

    For DTivo users, you know how you occasionally come across the Tivo auto recording a " suggestion" it would be like that.

    Also, I have some skepticism to how often the tuner will be able to effectively record many (60MB worth) PPV movies.

    unless you a) do not record on two tuners, or b) do not change the channel while recording something else for about 2 hours...the r15 won't have a chance to accept a Push.

    Not saying it won't work. not at all, just saying that it seems to be an awful lot of effort and a waste of disk space when we already have ability to record PPV at our leisure and only pay if we view.
     
  13. walters

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    Which? The earliest filed date I see is 1998-04-03 (and it's not a design patent). The earliest priority date I see is 1997-08-28 (also not a design patent). In fact, it's not all that surprising the design patents came later (closer to the actual product release).
     
  14. Wolffpack

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    I was looking at the References Cited at the bottom. Guess those don't have anything to do with the patent held by Tivo.
     
  15. cabanaboy1977

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    Just wondering. Do they have this on the Sky+ box or are they still waiting.

    BTW UTV did have dual switchable buffers (if you used the PIP on the UTV and switched back and forth)
     
  16. morgantown

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    Not to my knowledge.

    Glancing at what users are telling folks getting into Sky+ (in general) the following pretty much sums it up. ...It is a comment from today.

    "expect it to be a complete pain in the arse from time to time, seeming to have the ability to 'fail' on the recording that you want the most. If you expect it to behave in a fussy petulant manner as any PC does (after all it is just a small computer really), you will get along just fine."
     
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