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Potential YES Contract Dispute? Update: Agreement reached

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Grafixguy, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. Apr 4, 2011 #361 of 526
    Steve

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    I actually think YES needs DirecTV as much as the reverse. Satellite provides YES access to some customers nationwide they'd never get otherwise.

    And let's not forget Yankees fans in the YES backyard who will not leave DirecTV because of NFL Season Ticket. I would think those folks represent a very high value audience to YES's advertisers. Just my .02.
     
  2. Apr 4, 2011 #362 of 526
    sunking

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    As opposed to Directv naming their price? Oh wait, they do that every year with their price increases. Directv is no better or worse than the content providers. Every year they test the waters to try to find the tipping point between churn and profit. The difference is the sticker shock because carriage deals are more than a year.
     
  3. Apr 4, 2011 #363 of 526
    Sixto

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    Totally agree, which is the primary reason why I think that this will probably get done sooner rather then later, but with this economy it's hard to gauge how any negotiation will go. Fingers crossed here, I can certainly live for a week or two going back to the old ways (radio) and maybe a little MLB At Bat on the iPad as well. Otherwise, will just turn on cable or FiOS for a few months. Certainly figure that it will eventually get resolved.
     
  4. Apr 4, 2011 #364 of 526
    sigma1914

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    I still haven't ordered MLB EI this season (waiting for personal budgeting), which I plan on doing, but I'll try using this as "leverage" for a discount. I have no issue paying full price, but I politely ask for any available discounts when adding packages.

    Go Yankees!!!!!
     
  5. Apr 4, 2011 #365 of 526
    Sixto

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    It seems to me that at least the distributors have a direct relationship with their customers, and if the price increase is too much, then the customer may leave. They can then decide to react or not, or base the price increases on market metrics.

    With the content providers, it just seems a little different, if one distributor decides to walk then the customers may just move to another distributor, with maybe not as much impact to the content provider. YES is a little different because there's no other satellite competitor with YES.

    With HD, it's even worse, if the distributor has the SD version, and it's only the HD version being negotiated, then the content provider may not lose any share if the distributor doesn't agree, or at least a small amount if people refuse to watch the SD version, while in the meantime the content provider just holds the distributor hostage for the HD version.
     
  6. Apr 4, 2011 #366 of 526
    Tom Robertson

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    Well... Here is the rub. DIRECTV knows that customers start walking away at a 4 to 5% increase each year. Lately, many channel providers think they can be "the one" that can get 20% increase this year and 10% each year thereafter. (Some of them are even more bold and ask for 50% or 100% increases!)

    So some of the channels are ignoring the reality of the customer's willingness to pay. Or their own value. (Or both.)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  7. Apr 4, 2011 #367 of 526
    Santi360HD

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    I went about as basic as i could get...I'd get a cool 79.99 or 89.99 if i Got Internet Phone from them...but we in the D* world know unless you use your ENET cord or jack ya still need that damn Phone line in the D* Box...however with everything scaled as basic basic as i could get for about 98 bucks.. so next month it'll be like i have a regular cable bill again..if I open more channels and premiums THAT WILL ONLY HAPPEN if i bail out of DirecTV then it'll be like in the 140 150 range...

    as for Bleeding HD with my coax direct into my HD on Time Warner...I dont see what your seeing as far as bleeding... Ive had a very acceptible HD pic for those HD Channels that are on the coax without a box and yes SD channels are crappy there too...but none beat the screen door quality that D* has..It was nice to watch AMC and BBCA in HD for a bit this past weekend...see D*'s SOON cliche doesnt exist in time warner land...it fkn exists already!

    Living without Yankees isnt happening for me..Mainly cause I am a Yankees fan...If SNY was on the chopping block...I'd be pi$$ed too since I am in NY and D* would deny me a ny sports station...I'd leave but not in a hop skip hurry like YES channel...MSG channel Pull would be anothere I'd leave immediately for as well all my Hockey & rising NY Knicks...not happening!!!..while any provider reserves the rights to change services provided without notice...I too can take my money elsewhere without notice either!
    By jumping back to cable ...what would I lose

    -PPV sports packages in HD entirely..not like the 2 or 3 channels Timne Warner has HD games from said services..
    -NFL Network : with the many Bars and illegal inet streams (none mentioned by me) I can live with this
    -and NFL Sunday Ticket..lets not forget the league is on Strike right now
    -The RSN's and their wonderful programming not the live sports but the college sports and sports shows not subject to the blackouts.

    what do I gain with cable
    HD Channels now !!! not Soon
    VOD without a fkn DVR !!!
    Start Over function ...again without a DVR
    all premiums in HD ! and before anyone correct me yes I know the Encore love/western etc channels dont beam in HD Yet..

    decisions to ponder if & when push comes to shove...so I'll be paying 2 high bills...but not for long......
     
  8. Apr 4, 2011 #368 of 526
    tonyd79

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    Or drop options they feel they don't need to keep their bills down.

    But you are exactly right. Retail outlets (like DirecTV) have direct communication via money to their end customer unlike the wholesaler who is raising the price arbitrarily. Another factor: Retailers who have millions of customers can judge the effect of changing their prices better because they have so many data points. YES has only a handful so the number is more arbitrary.
     
  9. Apr 4, 2011 #369 of 526
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    YES in the tri state area knows exactly what it can get away with. And in the end Directv will pay up. I just find it funny that in one thread the same people will argue about the greed of channel providers yet in another thread will argue that Directv is a for profit business and will give us new HD channels as it makes sense for them to do so.
     
  10. Apr 4, 2011 #370 of 526
    Tom Robertson

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    Yupper, it is the nature of the beast. :)
     
  11. Apr 4, 2011 #371 of 526
    Rich

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    Not sure I understand what you mean. San Diego doesn't get Padre's games? How come? I don't have any idea how the cost of RSNs is figured out. I do know that Yes has a huge audience.

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  12. Apr 4, 2011 #372 of 526
    Rich

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    That makes sense.

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  13. Apr 4, 2011 #373 of 526
    Rich

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    Fortunately, CV charges over $16 per DVR per month, so my wife shouldn't get any ideas about switching back to cable. I sure don't want to.

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  14. Apr 4, 2011 #374 of 526
    Rich

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    I really doubt that, he was really proud of the Yes Network. Hank, on the other hand...

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  15. Apr 4, 2011 #375 of 526
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    Nope, they get blacked out of all Padres games except for the rare Saturday afternoon baseball game on FOX.
     
  16. Apr 4, 2011 #376 of 526
    Rich

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    Bottom line is still GREED on the part of the Yankees' management. Even tho Yes shows the Nets games, it's still a Yankees' network. Been to Yankee Stadium recently? You gotta bring a credit card, you don't want to be wandering around the Bronx with all the money the games gonna cost you if you only use cash. Last time I went, a beer (Bud Lite, yuk) cost $7.50. I read in the Daily News the other day that they had jacked that up to $11 a beer. They could let most everyone in for $5 and still make a fortune on the food and drink. GREED.

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  17. Apr 4, 2011 #377 of 526
    Rich

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    Absolutely! No doubt about it! Where else could they get a national audience?

    I just hope the Yankees' management group comes to their senses soon. I have not seen one article about this in the Daily News. Wonder why?

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  18. Apr 4, 2011 #378 of 526
    Rich

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    Huh. No other provider picks up the Padre's games?

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  19. Apr 4, 2011 #379 of 526
    paco1986

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    The provider in San Diego is Channel 4SD (a Cox Cable channel), but not available on DirecTV.
     
  20. Apr 4, 2011 #380 of 526
    Rich

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    At least somebody's got it.

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