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Program Overlays Gone Too Far

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by unixguru, Dec 13, 2012.

What kinds of program overlays are OK?

  1. None

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Channel logo all the time

    75 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Ad all the time

    21 vote(s)
    11.7%
  4. Brief channel logo

    2 vote(s)
    1.1%
  5. Brief ad

    92 vote(s)
    51.4%
  6. Factiods

    5 vote(s)
    2.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

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    Consider this... if this direction continues we will have advertisements on our phones while we are in a conversation with somebody.

    Why stop there? The power company will figure out how to have ads on light bulbs and fragrance ads from the furnace or air conditioner.
     
  2. unixguru

    unixguru Godfather

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    Agree with that although I'd still like a preference setting to not see it.

    In this case the association was extremely weak and the shear frequency/volume (every 15-20 seconds!!) was far from thoughtful.
     
  3. tonyd79

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    Not an intrusion if it applies to the program.

    You don't like multi media presentations, evidentially.
     
  4. HarleyD

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    I prefer that television programming not look like a web site.
     
  5. MysteryMan

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    +1
     
  6. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    ...what? This has absolutely nothing to do with DirecTV. They have zero control over graphic overlays used by content owners when producing their programming. Again, this has nothing to do with any service provider.
     
  7. Barcthespark

    Barcthespark Godfather

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    You are not a moderator. If you don't like the topic of the thread, then simply ignore it.
     
  8. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    The OP is interested in seeing people cancel whatever service provider they subscribe to...over something that has nothing to do with the service providers.
     
  9. Barcthespark

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    You can always report the thread to the moderators if you have a problem with it. Otherwise, just ignore it and let those interested in the topic converse among themselves.
     
  10. Scott Kocourek

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    Please do not discuss each other and make any personal or off topic comments via PM.

    Let's get back tot he topic.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Once again.....you didn't start a thread about advertisements. You started a thread about a TV show that uses factoid popups.

    Talk about ads, and I will agree with you. Bitching about facts (sorry I agreed to factoids...a factoid is actually an item that is untrue but sounds true...USA Today misused the word when it started) related (even loosely) to the topic being discussed is not complaining about advertisements even though you are spinning it as such so you garner support.
     
  12. dracozny

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    I really can't see the issue with factoids. sure they get placed in poor areas of the show but that is a production error not the broadcasters, or the providers fault. ads for shows on the other hand mostly comes from the broadcaster and yea the animated ones are really awful. but those shows being advertised as I mentioned above generally come with premium ad pricing, they really want you to watch during those times to make the most bang for their buck. often they use Nielsen ratings to determine the actual payout from the advertiser to the broadcaster.
     
  13. unixguru

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    Please look at the thread title again. Program Overlays Gone Too Far. Not Factoids Stink.

    Program Overlays:
    • logos
    • ads
    • factoids
    In the order that they have evolved. Factoids the latest and worst. The poll is about all of them. Just because factoids were the last straw causing me to post about these things doesn't mean we have to limit our discussion. Most threads go way off topic - far more than you are suggesting here. Why are we discussing what we are talking about instead of the issue?
     
  14. unixguru

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    So customer satisfaction with programming has nothing to do with the delivery service? A DTV marketing type would never think of adding yet another layer of intrusion over programming - only thing stopping them today is probably their contract to carry the channel. It's ok to do some so more has to be better.

    In my OP I said I had contacted the content provider about this. It's a bigger issue. Content providers get my money through the service provider. Therefore it does involve the service provider. You are welcome to your opinion but you're not welcome to suppress mine.
     
  15. unixguru

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    I'm sure many people do watch ads with some degree of attention. Many do not. I suppose I could be wrong but I think my household is rather typical. Before the DVR I usually hit mute during ads. Mostly because they were audibly intrusive (way too loud). Hardly paid any attention to the video - only enough to know when the program was back on. With DVR we first used FF; now we SKIP. In fact, I hit SKIP 3-4 times in rapid succession and then hit SKIP every time it stops and it's still an ad. Used to be a pain to do but now I'm "adapted" to it - remote usually in hand or nearby.

    Rarely do I see an ad that interests me or my wife. Usually it's for something that is new and would be available at the grocer. Almost always the product is not available in the store - for months. Maybe it shows up 6-12 months later but by then we've forgotten about it. (Major metro area - Minneapolis)

    So no, TV ads don't work in my house. They are too damn loud and repetitive (the same ad 4 times in a one hour program is nothing but irritating). Of the ones we do see (including fragments) the general reaction is to NOT purchase the product, partly due to the ads.

    It's like machine gun fire hoping to hit "something".

    If they take away my ability to SKIP/FF over ads then we're done with TV. Seriously. It's that bad. I can't imagine any content worth the level of torture that ads are becoming.

    We are middle-aged average household. Wife has iPad. We see a lot of ads on the web. We do product searches on the web - based on our NEED. Instead of just having it shoved in our face we look at details, compare, feedback from other consumers, etc. My wife likes Pinterest and others. It's on our time with our interest. Not when we are relaxing and paying for entertainment.

    So of course the question becomes how can content providers exist without ad revenue. Very simple actually. Make a product that people are willing to pay for. It's the same as music transition - from entire CD even if you only wanted one song to just the one song (and a reasonable price for it). Reasonable price and convenient delivery. (Typical TV show has to be <$1/hr.) It's like pay-as-you-go phone service. You pay for exactly what you use and for many people they will save money.
     
  16. dracozny

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    netflix or hulu or similar net service would be ideal for you then, downside. lack of content on the tv show side of things since they are usually a couple seasons behind everyone else. but then the rest of the world has already bought the shows on dvd and such further subsidizing the costs of the show your watching on netflix.
     
  17. tonyd79

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    Factoids are far from new. A big hit show on vh1 years ago had popup factoids about songs and the artists.

    The same have been around for decades on sporting events when they popup how many yards the running back has.

    Your rant was about information on an informational show. The difference between that and ads for other shows is huge. That is why we are talking about it.
     
  18. unixguru

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    The main focus of vh1 is music. The video has little value. SonicTap channels are all information video. Little difference. Fine with me.

    For the most part those are highly relevant and non-obtrusive. They don't bang away on my head every 15 seconds keyed off a word the announcer just said.

    Imagine the uproar if they were as frequent, obtrusive, and irrelevant as the ones I saw. Instead of a rant there would be riots.

    In your opinion; a minority one at that. To most of us it's garbage.
     
  20. Alan Gordon

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    I do not mind SOME graphic overlays... but the networks need to be careful when they use them. The worst example of timing was earlier this year when ABC Family had one pop up during a scene of "Switched At Birth" where two of the characters were speaking in sign language, and the pop up covered up most of the subtitles. :rolleyes:

    I do not mind logos the majority of time, unless they are obtrusive, or contains a bunch of unnecessary information around them...

    ... or when there are two logos on at the same time:

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