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R15 vs R10 (Which should I take)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by ccarmichael, Jun 4, 2006.

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  1. bnm81002

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    is it possible to use the access card from a standard receiver(D10) in a DTivo DVR which is not a R10 or R15? thanks
     
  2. sluggo0018

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    So I posted a day or two ago trying to decide of I should replace my dead D*Tivo unit with an R-10 or R-15. I finally decided that since I no longer have a land based phone line, the R-15 would be a better choice since it does not need an initial phone call to get started. I also got them to include the 6 months free Showtime. I ordered it yesterday and the FedEx man arrived today. The funny thing is that they sent an R-15 as ordered. Additionally, they sent an R-10. Both appear to be brand new, no refurb stickers.

    Guess I'll try the R-15 first, see how I like it. Would it be possible to get D* to allow me to activate the R-10 in addition to the R-15 to replace one of my old standard D* receivers? I can probably make the initial call at a neighbors house. This is probably a stupid question, but does the R-10 need to be connected to a D* satellite signal when the call is made?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Oh yeah, both units came with access cards.
     
  3. Wolffpack

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    I don't see why that wouldn't work. I believe the R15s need the newer card but any older receiver should be able to use any still valid DTV card.
     
  4. Wolffpack

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    Wow, interesting.

    They sent you both, they sure should be willing to activate both. When you do the call it doesn't need to be connected to a SAT. When it starts trying to gather the SAT data press the DirecTV button and go into Setup and make your call. You should be all set after that.
     
  5. bnm81002

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    so let's see for example I decide to take the free R15 DVR promotion and deactivate my standard receiver(D10) since the R15 must use it's own access card as you have said, I can still use the access card from the D10 to be used in an older earlier DTivo DVR in the future if I decide to get one(ebay, friend, etc.) no matter how long the D10 has been deactivated? thanks
     
  6. Wolffpack

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    That should work. If you run into a DTV CSR that gives you grief, hang up and call back...get the next CSR in the queue. But the card from your old D10 should work in any new/old DTivo bought off eBay. In fact, if the DTivo comes with a card that may work. But since you have your own, use that to avoid any problems with the past owner charging up $500 of PPVs.

    Oh, just another FYI, when you call to activate any unit you may get off eBay, don't say you got this off eBay, just say your brother-in-law gave it to you.
     
  7. bnm81002

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    hey a big thanks for all of your help, now I be getting that free R15 DVR from the promotion that Directv is running and I'll store my D10 till I need the access card in the future
     
  8. scubaduba

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    Is there an extra fee to pay Tivo if you have the R10? I have the R15 right now and am payming a $5.99 DVR fee to DirecTV. If I switched to an R10 would I still pay the $5.99 DVR charge plus a Tivo charge?
     
  9. ApK

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    No. Same charge.
     
  10. scubaduba

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    What is the $5.99 charge for anyway? If I purchased an R10 from Compusa what does the $5.99 fee go for?
     
  11. ApK

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    DVR service fee from DTV. It's what they charge you use a DVR on their service.
    Similar to the monthly fee you'd pay Tivo or Replay or Comcast. But lower, in most cases.
    While of course I'd rather that they offered it at no extra charge, I do like that the $5.99 is good for as many DVRs as you care to have on your system.
     
  12. scubaduba

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    Ok. Makes sense.

    I'm really torn witih what to do here. I like the fact that I got my R15 for free. I also see that it is likely that the R15 will continue getting updates to become a much better machine. But it is so frustrating to use with the current bugs. I switched to DTV from dishnetwork and was using one of their older PVR's which I found very intuitive. Using the R15 is much more complex and requires more menus and button pressing.

    I can purchase an R10 new from Compusa for $60. Not a big price to pay but the R15 was free. Plus, no new updates for the R10. And since I am leasing the R15 I would imagine free upgrades (or at least lower cost upgrades) to new hardware should DTV decide to discontinue the R15. I can see having to pay a hefty price to upgrade from the R10 to some other newer device in the future.

    Thoughts???? Which way to go? I wish I could try both side by side. Is there anyway that I could test side by side?
     
  13. JLucPicard

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    If you can test them side by side in the store, otherwise you can't test it at home without ativating it.

    Also, if you purchase the R10 for $60 at CompUSA, that box will be leased, just so you're aware of that. You would need to return the R10 if you ever cancel service.
     
  14. scubaduba

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    Actually, I don't think so. I purchased one tonight no strings attached. They sold it to me like any other product. No contracts to sign or leasing of any kind. I even asked if I was going to be required to sign anything and they looked at me like I was crazy.
     
  15. scubaduba

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    Ok. I have my new R10 from Compusa hooked up and everything is great! I've only been using it for a couple hours now but I can say I think I like almost everything about the R10 better than the R15. The last draw for me tonight with my R15 is when my wife and I sat down to watch Justice that we thought we had recorded but the R15 chose not to apparently. It showed it as a recorded item in MyVOD but instead the actual recording was just the DirecTV help channel (201 I think). What a joke. That was it... I hooked up the new R10

    I've never had a Tivo device before this one. Before DirecTv I had Dish Network and was using a PVR 501 from Dish. I was concered about the R10 needing to dial in using a phone line since I use Vonage. But no problems at all. Everything worked through Vonage.

    The menus on the R10 are much more intuitive (at least to me). I like the Tivo sounds as you move amongst the menus. It really helps affirm that you've done something and the device is responding to the remote. Maybe it will be annoying in the future... but then I can just turn the sounds off. For now, its helpful.

    I love being able to switch between the two tuners and pause both of them. The R15 absolutely needs this feature. Maybe sometime in the future huh....

    The case on the R15 does look better in my opinion with the cool blue lights etc. But that is totally secondary to good funtionality.

    I think I will miss the small box in the top right corner on the R15 that shows when you are in menus. That was nice. I might miss the caller ID feature too... but that's not really a big deal. The active mix menu on the R15 is cool... but you can still get to that on the R10 by just going to channels 102, 104 etc.

    Purchasing my own R10 also got me out of my 24 month contract with DirecTV that you have to have when you get one of their R15s. Now I have no contract and have the flexibility of being able to cancel my subscription with DirecTV with no penalty should I need to.

    All in all, I'm a happy camper so far.
     
  16. scubaduba

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    I'll also add that the sound quality on the R10 seems better than the R15. This is no scientific study but it seems that surround sound in particular is better.
     
  17. mrb

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    I've had the R15 for six months now...I've had three actually. It appears from reading through here that I can get an R10 either from D* or buy one for about $60 new somewhere, return the R15 and pay the same fee to D* of $5.99 a month.
    Is this true?
    Does D* still support the R10 software/hardware?
    If so, it's TiVo, dual tuners, etc...please tell me I'm right on this!!!
    Thanks, great forum.

    --mrb
     
  18. Bobman

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    Your right and they will still work fine. I doubt there will ever be any updates for the DirecTiVos though.
     
  19. petefromtracy-NY Giants

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    to SDVR40 in less than 2 hours
     
  20. Wolffpack

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    What updates would one need? DTivos record what they're told to record, when they're to record it. They run for months even years without needing to be reset. They have a nice 30 second skip. They have a reliable 7 second jump back. They have dual tuners. They don't loose recordings on their own. They don't reboot on their own (other than with hardware problems). They don't go to a black screen with no control. They have Wishlists.

    So what if DTivos will not receive any further software updates? They don't need them. They work as one expects them to work.
     
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