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R22 being discontinued??!!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by xmguy, May 6, 2009.

  1. May 11, 2009 #61 of 107
    Stuart Sweet

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    I don't think feature creep killed anything. In fact, when the HR20 came out, the major complaint was its lack of features! Not everyone likes Media Sharing or On Demand, but having those features does nothing to disguise the fact that my almost every metric, the HR2x series keeps improving. Are there performance issues still? Yes, and I promise you they're being dealt with whenever possible.

    bobcamp1, I hope they don't lose you as a customer, because you're valuable. It would be better to keep you and also attract 10 new customers who want advanced features.
     
  2. May 11, 2009 #62 of 107
    LameLefty

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    You should try an R22 before you complain. Works like a champ. Of course, my HR20, HR21, and HR22 all work fine too. :rolleyes:
     
  3. May 11, 2009 #63 of 107
    ThomasM

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    I disagree. When I first got the R22 it responded to remote commands instantly. Nobody complained about moving around the program guide. But it didn't have a bunch of features it does now (many of which I can't talk about here, of course). Now it muddles along like a race car on a muddy track.

    Yeah, those slick features are nifty-but it's a DVR and the R15 runs circles around it performance-wise when considering "the basics": Remote command response; moving around the various lists & menus; overall speed.
     
  4. May 11, 2009 #64 of 107
    LameLefty

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    Then yours is broken. I have an R15-500 and the R22 is just as fast, has a bigger recording capacity, and is on all counts a far more capable DVR.
     
  5. May 11, 2009 #65 of 107
    roadrunner1782

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    I don't think his is broken. My buddy has an R22 and it is just as sluggish as my HR22-100! Everytime he comes to my house and tinkers around with my R16 he always asks me why it is so much faster than his dvr. Now I will admit that the R22 is far more capable than the R15, R16 but it's definitely not as fast.
     
  6. May 12, 2009 #66 of 107
    carl6

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    I continue to be amazed in this new world of instant gratification when a delay of a few seconds seems to be ruining people's lives. Slow down, smell the roses, and enjoy all the great things life has to offer.

    I have an R15, R16, R22, HR20, HR21 and HR22. They all seem roughly equally responsive to me. None are slow or sluggish to the point it is the least bit bothersome.
     
  7. May 12, 2009 #67 of 107
    The Merg

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    I would agree that the my R22-100 is a bit more sluggish than my R15-300. When moving through my playlist on the R22, I have to consciously wait for the highlight to move from show to show, while on the R15 button presses are immediately seen. Now this could also be because I am using RF on the R22 and IR on the R15.

    Despite this and the other crippled aspects of the R22, I find the R22 to be extremely feature rich compared to the R15/R16. Even some of the smaller features in the R22 make the sluggishness I've found to be well worth the tradeoff (30 second skip, red button delete of a whole playlist folder, DOD).

    - Merg
     
  8. May 12, 2009 #68 of 107
    LOCODUDE

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    I agree the R22-100, as much as I love this receiver is somewhat sluggish in comparison to the R15. However that being said, I wouldn't trade my R22 for a R15 in a million years..... :D
     
  9. May 12, 2009 #69 of 107
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    INDEED.... :D

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  10. May 12, 2009 #70 of 107
    roadrunner1782

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    I wanna trade my HR22 with yours! I can't even put in a channel number and get it right since it is so slow to respond sometimes. For example, I wanna watch the NFL Network, ok I hit 2-1-2. The screen shows 2 then boink and says channel not available. Huh? I pushed 2-1-2 not just 2. Very frustrating!
     
  11. May 13, 2009 #71 of 107
    carl6

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    Obviously not normal behavior. I'm going to assume you have ruled out all the typical/common possible culprits, such as batteries in the remote, trying IR instead of RF or vice-versa, using a different remote, turning off any non-incandescent lights in the room (compact flourescent, led, etc.), tv backlight or mood light, etc. If you have not already ruled those types of things out as the possible source of remote problems, then you should look into them. If you have, then it is time to dig deeper.
     
  12. May 13, 2009 #72 of 107
    roadrunner1782

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    Time to dig deeper then! Now don't get me wrong it doesn't always do that when entering a channel number, but enough it gets aggrevating! RF instead of IR buy the way, and I did check to see if that was problem.
     
  13. May 13, 2009 #73 of 107
    ThomasM

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    No, I'm using IR on both the R15 & R22 and the R22 still is the tortoise and the R15 is the hare. I NEVER use double-dash anymore to delete things on the R22 because in the past I did not know the thing was a couple lines above the show I really wanted to delete! And if you like surfing channels to see what's on by pressing the Page Up/Page Down key, the first show you sample will be over by the time you get to the end of your favorites list! :lol:
     
  14. May 15, 2009 #74 of 107
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    This is just sheer speculation on my part, but has anyone considered that D* might be preparing to lower the price on the HR-2x?

    Let's say that D* has already decided to halt production of the R22. They have enough inventory on-hand or in the production queue to to last for 3 months (let's say). By restricting their deployment to mpeg-4 markets they might be able to stretch that to 6 months. Then, sometime in those 6 months, they drop the HR2x to $99. At that price point, there really isn't any need for an R-22 model any more since most people would probably just opt for an HR even if they are putting it onto an SD set.

    Also, I think HDTV's are reaching a price point where most people (who subscribe to cable or satellite) are seriously looking at replacing their most of their old SD sets with new HD sets. A 32" LCD suitable for a bedroom or den will soon be available for less than $300. A market for used LCD's will probably blossom as many early adopters start having more HDTV's than they have rooms.

    All in all, I think that a SD DVR just doesn't make sense in the long term, so D* is pulling the plug. The R16 is just a cheap stopgap until the transition takes place. And if the R16 is lacking in features relative to the HR2x, then what better way to encourage everyone to upgrade all their equipment to HD.

    Again, this is just a SWAG.
     
  15. May 16, 2009 #75 of 107
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    As many people have stated here, I am disappointed with the repeating bugs on R16-300. I actually haven't been able to download a CE for it in the last couple of cycles, but I read the issues, and the same bugs are there time after time. The RRx4 bug is annoying. No 30Skip is annoying as well.

    It is a neat box, but the fact that the repeating bugs are there time after time, gets old (bugs that affect every day operation).
     
  16. May 16, 2009 #76 of 107
    The Merg

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    I don't know about that... Even though I have I currently have SD receivers (and have one older HD-ready TV), I don't want to get an HD receiver with them--the reason is that when you get activate an HD receiver, you also need to subscribe to HD service for an additional $10/month.

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  17. May 16, 2009 #77 of 107
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    you may have a very valid point.......Indeed..:)
     
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    miketorse

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    That's the thing! You have HD service, and order a SD DVR upgrade, you get a HD DVR by default! Nobody is going to lease a HD DVR in those markets if they know that!
     

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